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AZ: Mt Lemmon Bear Attack, Details from 1996
Gun Watch ^ | December 21, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/25/2022 7:19:15 AM PST by marktwain

Over 20 years ago in 1996, I was driving to Phoenix, Arizona to catch a flight to Wisconsin.

I had the radio on. The news was reporting a horrific bear attack on Mount Lemmon, near Tucson, Arizona. A teenage girl had been badly mauled by a bear, in her tent, as part of a 4-H outing. A camp counselor had accessed a handgun and shot the bear, driving it off. As the hours rolled along, the AP stories started getting more vague and the story less heroic. The Internet wasn't well developed in 1996. It took me several years to track down the "camp counselor". Then, the notes and email were lost. Finally, in 2017, I made contact again.

The "camp counselor" who shot the 356 lb black bear off of Anna Knochel was Brett Kramer. He was the supervising adult in charge, an employee of the University of Arizona, in his official capacity as an Extension Agent. The details used to fill in and correct newspaper accounts of the time come from my interviews with Brett.

In 1996, it was the twilight before dawn when the big black bear entered the girls tent at 5:15 in the morning of 25 July. He pinned 16 year old Anna Knochel down and started biting and tearing at her. Anna did not make a lot of noise. She tried to protect her vitals and managed to get on her stomach. The bear bit at the back of her head, her shoulder, and back. It tore her leg open from the buttocks to the knee. The were extensive claw wounds from her scalp all down her back.

It took minutes for people in the camp to be alerted that a bear was attacking Anna in her tent. More time went by until Brett Kramer was told of the attack. He was in charge of 13 counselors and 71 children at the camp. Anna was one of the junior counselors.

He grabbed a flashlight and a canteen and ran down to Anna's tent, 50 to 60 yards away from the storage building where he was sleeping. He saw movement in the tent as he approached. He opened the front flap. Anna's cot was on the right. The bear was on top of her. He banged the canteen with the flashlight. He shouted. The bear didn't leave.

Brett remembered his .44 magnum, under the seat of his truck, two hundred yards away. He ran uphill, back to the storage building to get his truck keys. Fortunately, it was on the way to the parking lot. After a 150 yard sprint uphill to the truck, he grabbed his blued Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 7 1/2 inch barrel.

The pistol was loaded with six lead semi-wadcutter 240 grain bullets in .44 Magnum handloads. Brett is and was an avid reloader. He said the loading manuals put the load at about a 1000 feet per second, a hot load for a .44 Special, but mild for the .44 Magnum.

The pistol had been taken to camp by mistake. Brett had grabbed his pack, and the pistol happened to be in it. He was already on his way when he discovered it, so he locked the revolver in his truck when he got to the Boy Scout camp on Mount Lemon. It was legal to have the pistol in camp, but Brett wanted to keep it separate from the children he was supervising.

Other counselors tried beating on the tent and making noise. The bear was in full predatory mode. It ignored the disturbance.

Brett ran back to Anna's tent, about 200 yards, downhill. When he got back, the bear was still on top of Anna.

The first shot was from the front. It went through the shoulder and clipped a lung on the way to the abdominal cavity. The big boar immediately took off. Brett hesitated a moment for a clear shot, then fired again at the retreating bear, hitting it in the hind quarters. It was light enough to see and shoot. The sun would rise in a few minutes. Brett was 29 years old. He had just gotten a lot older.

A couple of hours later, two Pima County Sheriff's deputies were able to track down the bear. It was lying down, mortally wounded from Brett Kramer's handloads. They made sure with a couple of 12 gauge shotgun slugs.

Brett was able to attend the necropsy of the bear.

Anna Knochel was 16 and in excellent physical condition at the time of the attack. She was a high school swimmer and a cheerleader. The damage the bear inflicted was extensive. On the day of the attack, she was in surgery for 12 hours. It was the first of several surgeries, including an experimental transplant of a nerve from Anna's left leg to her severely damaged right leg. After months of re-constructive surgery and physical therapy, Anna was able to walk again. She eventually obtained an advanced degree, married and has a young son of her own.

The bear that attacked Anna was a known problem bear. Arizona Game and Fish, the University of Arizona, The U.S. Forest Service and the Boy Scouts were sued by the Knochels for negligence. A settlement with Arizona Game and Fish was reached for a reported 2.5 million dollars. The lawsuit had repercussions far beyond Arizona. I have not found results for the other defendants.

All over the country, departments responsible for the management of wildlife changed their policies. Problem bears were no longer treated to "catch and release", especially adult boars. Moving a problem bear moves the problem to someone else. Bears that become acclimated to humans, and associate them with food, are a problem. In modern parlance, a fed bear is a dead bear.

Research on black bear attacks showed that when a bear intends to eat you, fighting back is better than playing dead.

The Mount Lemmon bear attack case is one of many where bear attacks have been prevented or stopped with handguns. The calibers, so far, have ranged form 9mm to .44 magnum. Research is ongoing. I hope to have an updated article soon.

If you find an instance where the use of a pistol failed to stop a bear attack, please let me know. Such failures should be out there. The mythology is that such failures are common. I have not found one yet.


TOPICS: Government; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: 44; az; banglist; bear; handloads; reloading
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I will up my game.
125 gr JHP ain’t gonna work out here.
CorBon has a 200gr Hard cast that’s a bit under BB’s energy.
I’ll tune up before some bear country Hiking-——‐Giddyup!
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.38 +P Outdoorsman....👍


41 posted on 12/25/2022 5:51:20 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Big Red Badger

A GP 100 will soak up recoil a lot better than a light J Frame. Even slow heavy bullets will give excellent penetration. Think of the buffalo hunters slinging 500 grains at 1200- 1300 fps and doing the job.


42 posted on 12/25/2022 6:04:10 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: AnAmericanMother

I had fair luck with cast wheel weight bullets (230 grain .45 bullets) loaded to about 700 fps in my Webleys.


43 posted on 12/25/2022 6:08:29 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
I'll have to dig out the little furnace and give it a try.

Best thing about Webleys is their weight. Even a relatively hot load doesn't deliver much felt recoil.

And as my dear father remarked (alum of the old 79th Cameron Highlanders in WWII), if you run out of ammo you can easily hit somebody over the head with it and knock them out cold.

44 posted on 12/26/2022 7:27:08 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
At least it is lighter than a Colt 1911!

You might enjoy this book: The Webley Service Revolver by Robert Maze.

They are available on Amazon and ABE books.

I enjoyed it.

45 posted on 12/26/2022 7:44:10 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
I have a hard copy!

The Webley is just a *bit* heavier than a 1911A1 - loaded, the .45 weighs just on 3 pounds, while the Webley is about 3 and a half loaded.

46 posted on 12/26/2022 8:41:33 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: marktwain
The best handgun .40 caliber cartridge is probably the 10mm with heavy bullets. It has a good reputation.

I happily agree with you as to the .40 cal., all the more so given your wide expertise, and also because I can handle a .40 in or out of a good holster, which isn't the case with some other large handguns.

Maybe I missed an earlier discussion of the topic, not involving handguns, but in the area often I hunt and fish I have found a certain degree of comfort with the small slugged shotguns, the Remington .870, for instance, or the Mossberg, which I haven't fired. The .870 is light and strong and really quite fast even in a sling...the truth is I can and have carried the the .870 AND a 10 mm with little trouble. At times I have carried the fully-loaded .870 and handed off the 10mm to a friend who is not as wary (scardee) as me.

I do appreciate all the observations, and would greatly welcome any comments on the slugged shotguns as well, if the topic arises. Thanks once more.

47 posted on 01/02/2023 9:02:44 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
A shotgun with slugs is very effective against bears. The Remington 870 pump gun is one of the best, and is utilized all over North America and elsewhere for this purpose.

The only downside of the shotguns is they are long guns, they are heavier and much larger than handguns, so they are not as likely to be carried with you everywhere.

The .410 gauge slug may not penetrate as well as the other slugs, but it would likely get the job done.

20, 16, and 12 gauge buckshot and slugs appear to work very well.

48 posted on 01/02/2023 10:41:10 AM PST by marktwain
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