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Germany’s Gas Reserves “Emptying at Record Speed” As Country Struggles to Keep Warm, Lights On
Wattsupwiththat.com ^ | December 17, 2022 | P. Gosselin

Posted on 12/17/2022 6:50:24 PM PST by House Atreides

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To: fireman15

US electricity prices haven’t much to do with Russia or Euro energy prices. These are the result of US domestic policy, and often just state policy. There is a reason CA electricity is 2X that of Texas. And gas service prices likewise


61 posted on 12/17/2022 11:28:23 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DesertRhino

And gas, LNG or piped, is just a fraction of the Euro energy picture. Total cost and total supply picture isn’t catastrophic.


62 posted on 12/17/2022 11:31:23 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DesertRhino

In Bilbao for instance, where we have a very Euro-standard mix of sources, including LNG, electric rates now are about what we were paying in San Francisco. Granted, on this matter Spain is a relatively rational country.


63 posted on 12/17/2022 11:35:44 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DesertRhino

Actually just checked SF CA electric rates. We in Spain are paying only 60% of their current rates! That disaster is entirely on the state of California.


64 posted on 12/17/2022 11:41:54 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Paladin2

Just as Americans do. Look at who we have in the WH. With a 42% approval rating.


65 posted on 12/17/2022 11:46:08 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Deaf Smith

Germany has plenty of coal. They shut down most of their coal fired plants.


66 posted on 12/17/2022 11:47:55 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: House Atreides

Welcome to your “new world”, where everything is in short supply. As western governments lower their citizens’s expectations as to the availability of products and services, people will soon parrot phrases such as “Well bread has always been in short supply”, or “We have always had a shortage of heating oil, and our thermostat has been at 58 since I was a child. We are have to do our part, didn’t you learn that in grade school?”.

For a foreshadowing of where western nations are headed, including the U.S., go read old articles from the late 1980’s and early 1990s, and then on into current times regarding the shortages in Venezuela and the “weight loss” program which citizens of that country suddenly found themselves enrolled in involuntarily.

This is not going to end well for western nations, especially the U.S. For as the other countries start to fall, our government will push us further into debt as they start to try to convince taxpayers to be benevolent and send billions of dollars overseas. At some point, politicians are just going to abandon the country, and run to the bunker located on one of the islands in the middle of nowhere which they were told they have an interest in for “times such as this”.

As you can tell from the amount of money we are sending Ukraine, there is no limit as to how much we can print. At some point, people will have to recognize that fact. However, I suspect it will be too late at that point to save our country.

It is not going to be pretty.


67 posted on 12/18/2022 12:07:56 AM PST by CFW
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To: buwaya

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/new-era-gas-wars-between-ukraine-and-russia


68 posted on 12/18/2022 12:09:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: buwaya; Paladin2; kiryandil; Kazan; Nextrush; House Atreides; WMarshal; Deaf Smith; DSH
There is still a backlog of LNG tankers awaiting unloading in Germany. This should help. The main issue with LNG is the rate of unloading. Since there are another two terminals that should open this winter it should mitigate that a lot.

And this is a really big deal for next winter - when the gas problems are likely to really bite - This will be done by next August, or earlier


thanks for that dose of reality ... figured it was something like that

all the anti-Europe haters and Russia apologists will now be so sad LOL

(and the sanctions ain't changing until Russia GTFO of Ukraine!!)


69 posted on 12/18/2022 12:15:59 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Sacajaweau

Yet another (stupid) bunch of reasons for Russia to have invaded Ukraine. To preserve their Euro market. That they then have lost for generations.


70 posted on 12/18/2022 12:17:42 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: FormerFRLurker

Our current leaders are dramatically worse than foolish.


71 posted on 12/18/2022 12:24:13 AM PST by MachIV
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To: canuck_conservative

It’s literally Russian LNG marked up from middlemen.


72 posted on 12/18/2022 12:32:59 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil

Russia currently losing $40-50 billion per week from lost oil & gas sales to Europe ... has been ever since Sept. 1st, when Russia unilaterally shut off the gas flows to Europe

that’s about $500-600 billion in lost revenues in the last 4 months ... that’s a lot to bear, even for Russia

and every week that this unnecessary war drags on is another week that Europe gets used to non-Russian suppliers ... pretty soon there won’t be any reason to back to Russia as a supplier (except for occasional top-ups, maybe)

but you Russian shills already know this ... that’s why you’re always desperately screaming for the sanctions to end, correct?


73 posted on 12/18/2022 12:42:28 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
There are very few people in this world that are dumber than a Dumb Canadian...

but you Russian shills already know this ... that’s why you’re always desperately screaming for the sanctions to end, correct?

Find a post of mine where I'm "desperately screaming for the sanctions to end", Chummy dipstick.

I suppose I can't really expect much from Chrystia's shrieking porch ape...     

74 posted on 12/18/2022 1:23:14 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: House Atreides
I live in Sicily where thankfully the climate is mild; chilly and wet in the winter but not freezing cold. Still, the utility costs here have gone exponential. During this period las year I paid .197480 per kilowatt of electricity. This year it's .554360. No, that's not a typo.

I saw this coming during the spring so I hustled and installed a partial solar electric system and two woodstoves (I get the wood for free). Back then I knew for sure that the corrupt, leftist EU filthbags were going to choke the life out of its citizenry in the name of their self-enriching fraud called Climate Change. I was correct. Many, many folks here just cannot afford to pay their heating and utility bills now. I can't imagine how bad it's going to get in colder EU countries.

Unless the leftist/globalist/WEF-loving EU filth are made to cower in their homes, fearing for their lives, it's only going to get worse. A lot worse.

75 posted on 12/18/2022 1:34:34 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Dropping usage in winter by 20%? Tell me how the average consumer figures that amount?

They don’t/can’t. The only way to achieve that target is by closing businesses and production, which then puts people out of jobs, which then means ...how or who pays the bills?

Right now my heating is set at 65 during the day and 60 at night. Right now it is snowing outside, temperature is a balmy 27F with real feel at 15F. Thermal drapes are hanging closed too. At my feet is a small baseboard heater running. A single light burns over my table and my coffee has been brewed and moved to the thermal carafe to keep warm. This is not a new normal for me, it is my standard winter routine. Cut 20% usage? Where, how?


76 posted on 12/18/2022 1:55:51 AM PST by EBH
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To: Nextrush

There’s absolutely no way to save this thing. Weimar Republic.


77 posted on 12/18/2022 2:04:58 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Paladin2

Schwab approves, the EU political puppet heads who were installed nod their heads like bobble head dolls. Again we are looking in the mirror at ourselves soon


78 posted on 12/18/2022 4:26:04 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: 353FMG

True! We should now understand the weakness of diversity. We have large segments of the population that think and vote as a block and all captives to mother’s milk - free everything - monthly subsistence checks, health insurance, cell phones, etc.

and they know true Republicanism calls for reducing those benefits to just a safety umbrella.


79 posted on 12/18/2022 5:07:25 AM PST by elpadre (W )
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To: House Atreides

Oh no, Germany’s enemies are de energizing, de industrializing her and stripping away her military stockpile. Without ever declaring war on her


80 posted on 12/18/2022 5:51:22 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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