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What Is Really Going On With Ukraine?
Nextrush Free ^ | 11/19/2022 | Nextrush/Self

Posted on 11/19/2022 10:53:25 PM PST by Nextrush

The United States is defending the borders of Ukraine as defined by Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin and other Soviet Communist rulers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
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1 posted on 11/19/2022 10:53:25 PM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

IBTAN


2 posted on 11/19/2022 10:58:15 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Nextrush

I didn’t realize there were United States soldiers in the Ukraine now. I guess I was ignorant.


3 posted on 11/19/2022 11:03:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Nextrush

A tragedy. The Ukes could have been wealthy beyond belief between the EU and Russia. If they would have lost the corruption and signed deals with Russia AND the EU, dropped their corporate taxes to very low levels... they could have been the greatest middlemen of history.

But corruption, DC fanning the flames of Galician nazism, and the EU demanding exclusivity has killed untold numbers of people and destruction.


4 posted on 11/19/2022 11:05:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: nickcarraway

One General and about 300 men allegedly there to make sure military hardware is accounted for.


5 posted on 11/19/2022 11:09:22 PM PST by cranked
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To: DesertRhino

You’re delusional.

Seriously, you’re comment is insane.


6 posted on 11/19/2022 11:12:32 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DesertRhino
All they had to do was ride the rivers of natgas and oil pouring West, and receive their fair remuneration for transit.

Instead, US oligarchs from the royal American political dynasties moved in for the kill of the fatted Ukrainian calf.

7 posted on 11/19/2022 11:17:13 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: ifinnegan

Well yeah probably so, because the Ukes had no ability to lose the corruption, and they are not to bright so they are easily inflamed by decades and century old grievances.

However I stand by the observation, had they looked at a map, noticed their geography between Russia, the EU, and out to the Black Sea. They could have easily decided to become some kind of free trade, low tax zone, crisscrossed with pipelines, power plants selling electricity, manufactured goods, agriculture, etc.
Had they done that and not aligned with Russia OR the EU, they could have become a Dubai or Singapore.

But like Poles, they are emotional and not super bright. Easily lead around by the nose by DC, EU, and WEF.

They coulda been rich. They went with Biden, child trafficking, graft, and sucking DC’s teat. Live and learn I guess.


8 posted on 11/19/2022 11:22:20 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Nextrush

The first casualty of war is the truth, no? Don’t expect to know what’s going on unless you, yourself have a network of trusted spies embedded in all facets of life over there. From the “front lines” to the backroom discussions,the civilians, to the militarists.
As of now, it appears to be a media presentation to us outsiders. Underneath, not so nice.


9 posted on 11/19/2022 11:26:52 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Nextrush

The idea, of course, is to weaken Russia while making mountains of money for the MIC. Like Saddam Hussein and Kuwait, Putin was given the green light to invade and he stupidly went. Something was planned here because Ukraine was in the middle of Trump’s first impeachment. It is a corrupt place, but I can’t blame the Ukies for taking the money that Washington gives them. Putin has been acting like Hitler, and I don’t feel sorry for him anymore than any other dictator who starts a war and invades a peaceful neighboring country. The Russian people need to clean house, but of course so do Americans.


10 posted on 11/19/2022 11:35:23 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: nickcarraway

It’s an unoffical world war. All the major powers are supplying Ukrainians with weapons and embedded soldiers.


11 posted on 11/19/2022 11:36:17 PM PST by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an ele, ctric car.)
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To: DesertRhino

Yanukowcyh dropped the deals with the EU in favor of making Ukraine a vassal state of the Kremlin, like Lukashenko’s Białorus.


12 posted on 11/19/2022 11:37:34 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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Reading is fundamental, but on the other hand... you’re from Poland.

Russia offered them a way better deal over the EU austerity without the Schengen part of the deal. And EU insisted on exclusivity. They could have played both sides easily as a free trade zone and gotten wealthy beyond belief. But the idiot Galician grievances are so easy for DC/London and Brussels to play.


13 posted on 11/19/2022 11:49:26 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Nextrush

The biden crime family as exposed because of the perfect ‘phone call and nazi pelosi’s psychotic TDS.


14 posted on 11/20/2022 12:08:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Nextrush

In my opinion the war is all about maintaining the Petro-Dollar. Putin is leading the effort to challenge the Dollar as the worlds reserve currency. It’s the west against the BRICS.
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-new-brics-alliance-is-a-mortal-threat-to-the-west/


15 posted on 11/20/2022 12:29:08 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: Nextrush
The United States is defending the borders of Ukraine as defined by Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin and other Soviet Communist rulers.

Just what is your point, and why does it matter?

16 posted on 11/20/2022 12:51:02 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: DesertRhino
A tragedy. The Ukes could have been wealthy beyond belief between the EU and Russia.

The eastern provinces of the Roman Empire, benefitting from the trade routes to India and China, were always most prosperous. Yes, the story of Ukraine is a tragedy - like from ancient Greek times.

17 posted on 11/20/2022 12:59:44 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Nextrush

What’s going on is everybody’s making a ton of money thanks to the American taxpayer and the Ukrainian people are getting screwed.


18 posted on 11/20/2022 1:06:50 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Nextrush

It still makes me wonder what the true story of the work the vindiman brothers at the national security council and the state department with the ambassador of Ukraine where up to that they had to accuse a sitting president of treason to keep their operation going? Is this the war they planned and wanted? Or was the money too good to pass up? They seem to get to scurry to rat holes and write face saving books and drop off the earth after their failure and is this war the damage control we have as a nation to bare for their actions? The press and the Congress did their best to cover for these government employees in their news stories and the Congressional impeachment but some how we are still funding this war and looks to be slow pushed into this mess.


19 posted on 11/20/2022 2:03:12 AM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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I will likely be gone before the truth come out if this war is Trumps modern analog of Kennedy’s Bay of Pigs. We’re The background players in Washington were trying to change Ukraine in to a new regime that was for the better outcome and the president’s decisions keep them from doing that. Or flip the narrative and the president’s actions tried to stop a war they were trying to make happen.
It will probably come out (definitively) we where below water in $&@! With Ukraine and any action or decision was crap. As a former ambassador said, “what does it matter?,” as to who was involved we are here now.
I still want my pound of flesh if I’m being dragged with them.


20 posted on 11/20/2022 2:22:03 AM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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