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I like this in that yes, China is a threat. But is that threat peaking or has peaked? Remember Japan, the next superpower in the 1990s. Oops!
1 posted on 10/21/2022 6:09:30 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

Joe is doing his best to make it so ...


2 posted on 10/21/2022 6:11:40 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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I think China is already a Superpower. Who writes this stuff?


3 posted on 10/21/2022 6:16:12 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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Yeah, China's population has peaked...AT 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE.

China is better off with a lower population with fewer mouths to feed. Their issue is that all of the hill people who were living in the stone age have come to the cities to work in factories, and are now part of a growing middle class that China cannot sustain.

Maybe a nice little war over Taiwan to thin out the heard a bit is what they want...

4 posted on 10/21/2022 6:16:21 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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China has options. They'll just take the surplus population and sell them for body parts on the black market.

We've been wondering how some of our liberal monsters can live so long.

5 posted on 10/21/2022 6:17:45 AM PDT by LouAvul (Complacency is the enemy of courage.)
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Please respond to this post to prove you’re not a blogpimp bot, or ‘Onthebrink’ retread. 8~)


6 posted on 10/21/2022 6:18:24 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Hoplophobia will never be in the DSM, because the DSM is written by hoplophobes.)
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Anyone, who doesn’t fully *grok* that China is, BY FAR, the most powerful nation on the planet is deluding themselves, IMO.


7 posted on 10/21/2022 6:18:58 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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They have nukes. They want Taiwan, where the microchips come from, and where sailors on liberty go to get their ashes hauled. Brandon is selling them the strategic petrol reserve bit by bit.


8 posted on 10/21/2022 6:19:24 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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I think it’s true. The emergence of a strongman like Xi is evidence of weakness, not strength.


9 posted on 10/21/2022 6:21:16 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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China is a major military power but it will never be a superpower.

Because of it cultural nature it lacks the moral authority to back up its military, it can only exert influence through brute force. And that never lasts.


11 posted on 10/21/2022 6:23:32 AM PDT by skeeter
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Except that Japan made the HUGE mistake of allowing liberalism into their country. China has not made that mistake.


13 posted on 10/21/2022 6:33:54 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 37 degrees)
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The American people need a boogeyman. It’s China’s turn.

They are a economic power. They are a local military power.

We need to take them seriously. But they have a ton of internal issues that are not going away.


17 posted on 10/21/2022 6:42:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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China is already a superpower, depending on how you define it.

Superpower: A superpower is a state with a dominant position characterized by its extensive ability to exert influence or project power on a global scale. This is done through the combined means of economic, military, technological, political and cultural strength as well as diplomatic and soft power influence.

Economically China is a superpower. It is influencing and projecing power on a global scale. Note the belt and road initiative. Note the worldwide influencing organizations. Note their virtual control of the WHO and influence at the UN. Note their influence on Hollywood and the ability to censure criticism of China. Note their ability to place spies in sensitive areas.

The good news, is that as the largest importer from China, the US has tremendous power to limit their growth by raising protective tariffs and returning key manufacturing to our shores.

19 posted on 10/21/2022 6:46:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
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China can revive if its leaders junk Communism and encourage Christian evangelism.


20 posted on 10/21/2022 7:26:58 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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The average age in China is 38.4. The average age in the USA is 37.7. Abortion and easily available birth control did the same job here as China's 1 kid per couple policy. My brother and his wife had five kids now all in their 20s and 30s. None of them are planning on having children themselves... to save the planet of course. Nearly all developed countries have a fertility rate that is less than what it takes to maintain their population. Even India has dipped below "replacement numbers". But fear not the uneducated masses in 3rd world sh@t holes is more than enough for the numbers of humans to continue to increase. In Niger each woman is still averaging close to 7 kids. Throughout Africa most women are having 5 kids or more. Countries by fertility rate 2020 - StatisticsTimes.com
26 posted on 10/21/2022 8:19:07 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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Japan in the ‘80s and China now are completely different.

Japan militarily was a protectorate of the US and had no nukes or offensive military. China is independent, has nukes, and its air force and navy, while still mostly defensive are only a decade behind the US.

Japan is the size of Montana and has few natural resources. China is larger than the US and has substantial natural resources.

Japan had a population of about 120 million. China has a population of 1420 million, over 10 times as great.


27 posted on 10/21/2022 8:25:11 AM PDT by FarCenter
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China is already an economic superpower, and you can count on them to expand their economic activity and reach globally. Japan faltered because its people became too Westernized and expected too much for themselves. China will put a damper on those expectations. Granny is going to keep working into her eighties rather than going on social security.

Will China become a global military hegemon the way that we think we are? Probably not. They are likely to play the cards they have more carefully. They won't make the mistake of trying to remake other countries against their will, but will use their economic power to get what they want from them.

34 posted on 10/21/2022 9:29:34 AM PDT by x
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In following Japan's model of export led industrialization, China set itself up for a similar follow on era of stagnation and relative decline. In both countries, domestic demand was tightly controlled and savings directed toward financing industrial capacity for the export market. Along with artificially low wages and exchange rates, Japan (and later China) became the world's low cost producer and dominated many industries.

As the earnings from exports piled up though, they had to go somewhere. At first, they were parked in US Treasuries, but then directed to lending for domestic real estate, public infrastructure projects, and foreign lending and asset purchases of all sorts.

In Japan, the most notable result was an absurd run up in real estate prices and an extraordinary binge of marginal infrastructure projects that fed the country's politically influential building industry. For China, real estate lending and development was also especially attractive because it generated millions of jobs and, channeled through local government entities, provided lots of cash for party leaders and cadres.

Inevitably, export growth though wanes as it comes up against economic and political limits and competition from new low cost producers. Here the paths of Japan and China diverge.

After the inevitable crunch when imprudent real estate loans went bad, Japan dithered for a decade and then finally wrote off and digested the mass of bad loans and recapitalized its banks so they could begin lending again. Japan's reasonably honest bureaucracy and courts more or less fairly apportioned wins and losses, while the Japanese Diet loosened up the country's internal economic regulations so as to regain employment and economic momentum.

China will not do that because the regime is irremediably corrupt, autocratic, and anarchic in ways that Japan is not. There is no rule of law in China, only the will of the party and its determination to remain in power -- and the determination of the leadership to remain in control of the party. That is not a recipe for good public policy.

The net result of a great mass of bad real estate lending and projects is that China is having to bulldoze many thousands of badly constructed or economically useless buildings, entire suburbs and cities worth of them. A lot of public infrastructure is also little used or in poor shape and will have to be abandoned, repaired, or rebuilt.

Meanwhile, the government's often profligate lending and building will continue, even if diminished. China has trapped itself in such a system as a way to provide employment and economic growth, even if much of that growth is in make work projects that are not viable or useful in the long term.

Even worse, China is now in what economists call the middle income trap in which broad economic gains are harder to come by because the needed technology cannot be copied but must first be invented and perfected. And with demographic decline and a major gender imbalance, China will struggle even to service its existing needs.

Yes, China is a military menace to the US, but in the long term, the Chinese military will often struggle to find sufficient qualified people to man and service the weapons and platforms that they have already built. Moreover, China's often thuggish diplomacy tends to make enemies and leaves it unable to assemble a broad coalition of allies.

In a full on war with the US over Taiwan, China would soon find its military power confined to its home region, most of their foreign assets stropped away, and its domestic economy wrecked by sanctions and a blockade.

36 posted on 10/21/2022 12:56:28 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Consider what the International Leaders are looking at....


37 posted on 10/22/2022 9:13:44 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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