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Is there really a COVID ‘nightmare variant’ spreading? Here’s what experts say
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | October 19th, 2022 | Aidin Vaziri

Posted on 10/20/2022 7:48:39 AM PDT by shadowlands1960

While the United States contends with the newly detected COVID omicron BQ.1 subvariants, another highly mutated strain of the coronavirus called XBB is tearing across Southeast Asia, where in some countries, it has caused the number of cases to double in a day.

Some more sensationalist reports have called XBB a “ nightmare variant ” due to its apparent ability to evade immunity and dampen some therapies. But infectious disease experts say it is too soon to jump to such broad conclusions.

“That is pretty irresponsible reporting because it’s impossible to know what all these variants mean,” said UC Berkeley infectious disease expert John Swartzberg.

“We are seeing a slew of new variants that are using a similar approach to survive — they are finding ways to evade the way we get immunity from vaccines and previous infection with changes on the spike protein,” he said. “XBB is no different from the others.”

The subvariant was first detected in August in India and has since been sequenced in more than 17 countries, including Bangladesh, Japan and Singapore, where it has caused cases to spike at an alarming rate.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; collegemade; covidstooges; madeatbu; obamacare; science; vaccinemandates
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“The number of people dying or in the ICU is really low,” he said. “Their protection level is really solid.”

1 posted on 10/20/2022 7:48:39 AM PDT by shadowlands1960
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To: shadowlands1960

I’d bet the farm that it’s not.

They are just still trying to milk the Covid fear porn for everything they can.


2 posted on 10/20/2022 7:51:44 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: metmom

I found it interesting the SF Chronicle was downplaying it. It was ‘oh my! We’re all going to die’ when Trump was in office. Now it’s ‘no big deal.’


3 posted on 10/20/2022 7:53:55 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960

I predict it will be here by 2024. Just in time for mail-in ballots.


4 posted on 10/20/2022 7:54:17 AM PDT by ProudDeplorable (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: shadowlands1960

Forget the parade of dangerous, magic vaccines.

Stock up on Ivermectin.


5 posted on 10/20/2022 7:56:03 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: shadowlands1960

Well, there isn’t enough time to use it to effect voting, so they have to downplay it, since it’s mainly the Leftists that fear it. If they thought there was a new China Syndrome spreading, they’d stay home.


6 posted on 10/20/2022 7:57:11 AM PDT by ferret_airlift
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To: shadowlands1960

Maybe the real “COVID nightmare” was the leftoids we met along the way.


7 posted on 10/20/2022 8:02:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: shadowlands1960

From the Singapore Ministry of Health:

“There has been no evidence of XBB subvariant causing more severe illness than previous variants. In fact, our local data in the last two weeks shows that XBB cases are estimated to have a 30% lower risk of hospitalisation compared to Omicron BA.5 variant cases.

No increases in COVID-19 deaths have been observed over the past month.”

Link: https://www.gov.sg/article/factually141022-a


8 posted on 10/20/2022 8:04:59 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: shadowlands1960
The number of baby boomers dying is even lower than it was at Big Pharma's "Pandemic That Changed the World", but Science Fiction fear mongering is still at an all time high.

the PCR test has replaced the Ouiji Board as the creepiest device known to man

9 posted on 10/20/2022 8:05:38 AM PDT by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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To: CatHerd

Thanks... good catch...


10 posted on 10/20/2022 8:06:06 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: KTM rider

I went down to my local health dept and got two of those tests for free. They are still sitting there gathering dust.


11 posted on 10/20/2022 8:07:40 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960

12 posted on 10/20/2022 8:08:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Exactly, the root of all these problems is...government and inept government workers. If only we could scale back government by about half, we’d have half the problems they cause.


13 posted on 10/20/2022 8:10:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Didn’t they just announce they just created a super covid in the lab?


14 posted on 10/20/2022 8:13:36 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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Didn’t they just announce they just created a super covid in the lab?


15 posted on 10/20/2022 8:13:36 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: dsrtsage

That was Boston University. It supposedly killed 80% of the mice exposed to it. I thought this article might have been a reference to that when I first saw it.


16 posted on 10/20/2022 8:15:55 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960

A new pandemic is necessary to hoble the country when the libs are out of power. That’s all this is. Except possibly the Soros/Gates group has released another bioweapon. Then all bets are off.


17 posted on 10/20/2022 8:19:58 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: metmom

I know it’s farfetched, but supposed people are fully vaccinates are at the most risk by these new variants.

Meaning, maybe not this variant but some future variant could be really serious for people who are fully vaccinated, let’s say the mortality rate rose to 20%, you really would have a catastrophe at that point.

I’m not predicting anything just throwing around ideas.


18 posted on 10/20/2022 8:20:34 AM PDT by srmanuel (C)
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To: shadowlands1960

i’d be MORE worried about the new 80% strain made in BOSTON!!!


19 posted on 10/20/2022 8:25:57 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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1) In the US, counting has changed. You cannot look at today’s Covid death count and get useful information. Local govts are not funding the effort to get the information tabulated immediately. It trickles in. So you have to look back a few weeks to see an accurate measure of that point in time. You cannot get an accurate measure of today until a few weeks from now. This is not only the US, but mostly.

2) In January of this year, the DNC could foresee a very bad mid-term election upcoming. They commissioned a study of what they might do to lessen the damage. The response from the relevant surveys spoke to one thing above all else (remember, this was January) and that was Get The Virus Off The Front Page and stop being associated with it.

Immediately, the MSM took their new DNC orders and we stopped getting daily Covid stories, despite a very high daily Covid death count at that time. Then Ukraine started and this helped with the headlines.

3) As for this new variant, about 5 weeks ago Japan was spiking their daily Covid death count to higher levels than they have seen since the virus arrived in the world.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/ scroll down to the death graph

Taiwan’s Covid death numbers are similarly ascendant.

The new variant seems to be in those places. It has not reached the rest of the world yet, though Germany, France and Italy are seeing Covid death upticks — more likely from winter than the variant.

4) We have about 350 Covid daily deaths right now. If we had never seen 3000 and 1500 in previous years, there would be an outcry at losing 350 more older Americans every day than in pre Covid years. Winter hasn’t arrived here yet. This year’s spike was January/February, delayed a month or two from 2020.


20 posted on 10/20/2022 8:26:08 AM PDT by Owen
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