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A Winter War In Ukraine Favors Russia And Will Be Bloody
19FortyFive ^ | 10/14/2022 | Daniel L. Davis

Posted on 10/15/2022 7:56:05 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111

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To: Cronos
Remember that the present Russian federation is legally the successor state to the USSR hence its UN seat.

You could debate that the USSR no longer exists so Russia is technically a new country. The UN isn't obligated to give the former seat of USSR to Russia. Otherwise Russia should share the seat with 14 other former republics of the USSR.

61 posted on 10/15/2022 10:25:50 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Cronos
They are fighting for their homes and loved ones.

I can top you with silly, romantic, nonsense political cliches - "they are fighting for beauty, truth, and the Ukraine way"

62 posted on 10/15/2022 10:26:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

In every town Ukrainians have liberated they have found mass graves and torture chambers.

That’s the reality of the Russian occupation.


63 posted on 10/15/2022 10:36:22 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: jdsteel

—-> That’s what people said a few days into the war. Check your calendar.

I was also told ukraine would end the war in 30 days.

Twice at different times.


64 posted on 10/15/2022 10:37:21 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Just as the Ukrainians are using T-55s...........keep talking sport.


65 posted on 10/15/2022 10:41:46 AM PDT by cranked
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To: whyilovetexas111

So, after “in 2-3 days”, after Wunderwaffe, etc it’s now General Winter to the rescue...
Wow.


66 posted on 10/15/2022 10:42:00 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: Cronos

—> Now the Ukrainians are pushing east.

I think we’ll know by January - either way


67 posted on 10/15/2022 10:42:12 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That is an attempt to rewrite history, the world knew that Russia would roll over Ukraine in days or weeks.

It was an incredible journey to watch as the weeks turned into months and the world witnessed what was revealed about Russia and its military.


68 posted on 10/15/2022 10:43:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Krosan

Or the reality of the level of brutality and slaughter of the neo-Nazi Regime in Kyiv.....


69 posted on 10/15/2022 10:43:40 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ansel12

I’m just reporting what Zeepers posted here.

And we don’t know the whole story yet


70 posted on 10/15/2022 10:45:37 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Krosan
In every town Ukrainians have liberated they have found mass graves and torture chambers.

You're so gung-ho about war in Ukraine, why are you still here and not toting a rifle in the Donbas?

71 posted on 10/15/2022 10:50:25 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Nope, Putin’s army invaded their lands, killed their friends and family.

They want revenge and theg also wsnt to give Putin a black eye do he doesn’t attempt this again in 8 years.


72 posted on 10/15/2022 10:51:10 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: MinorityRepublican

You could. But normally it is simply the state stating whether it is a legal successor or not and if not disputes then ok.


73 posted on 10/15/2022 10:52:23 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Nope, Putin’s army invaded their lands, killed their friends and family.

Curious - do you count Crimeans, and people in the Donbas in this glorious, righteous anger?

74 posted on 10/15/2022 10:52:24 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Yes. A large chunk of Crimeans and Donbas people (more than half in the Donbas) did not and do not want to be under Moscow’s thumb.


75 posted on 10/15/2022 10:53:26 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
But normally it is simply the state stating whether it is a legal successor or not and if not disputes then ok.

The USSR was huge. Russia is only half of that. So they should get the seat 1/2 of the time. Estonia? Maybe one month out of 10 years. Seriously though, you are probably right. We are better off recognizing Russia as the successor state to the USSR.

76 posted on 10/15/2022 10:55:48 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: PGR88

Maybe I am too old for that. Maybe I’m a coward as I have seen older men than me volunteering and going there, but I decided I won’t.

What I am doing is donating to the Ukrainian war effort and rooting for their inevitable victory to come quicker.


77 posted on 10/15/2022 10:56:02 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: EEGator; whyilovetexas111

Macgregor thinks that a few were casualties in one Russian missile strike.

It would be a surprise if we didn’t have ‘advisors’ on the ground there. The only thing missing from this exercise is a Gulf of Tonkin incident.


78 posted on 10/15/2022 11:02:26 AM PDT by Pelham (World War III will be fought with nuclear weapons. World War IV will be fought with rocks & sticks.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Anybody can post anything, and someone usually does, but it doesn’t have anything to do with the actual history of the time and the almost 100% agreement that the Russian superpower with their 20 years in the making of a modern, advanced and professional Army of volunteers with new and advanced modern equipment and tactics and capabilities would instantly roll over Ukraine by taking the government in the first days.

It was all an illusion, 8 months later the broken Russian military is hoping to overwhelm its neighbor with Stalin-type fighting, masses of sacrificial cannon fodder, and mass destruction.


79 posted on 10/15/2022 11:03:37 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: PGR88

You’re saying that:

If you hate people dying of cancer then you must become a medical researcher to cure cancer.

If you hate people losing their homes or even lives to fire then you must become a fireman.

Since you can’t be both then you’re saying you can’t hate both.


80 posted on 10/15/2022 11:05:33 AM PDT by Krosan
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