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How Much are Gun Laws Repressing Exercise of 2A Rights?
AmmoLand ^ | October 6, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/08/2022 4:55:27 AM PDT by marktwain

The states with the most restrictive gun laws are repressing the exercise of Second Amendment rights.  How much damage are they doing?

In the 2022 Bruen decision, released by the Supreme Court on June 22, the court named six states and the District of Columbia as polities where the governments were violating the rights of their residents to keep and bear arms.

Those states were California, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Maryland, New York, New Jersey, and the District of Columbia.

There are reasonably good measures to compare those states to the rest of the country, where laws restricting the sale, ownership, and carry of arms are less burdensome.

The National Instant background Check System (NICS) tracks retail gun sales in all the states. Gun sales are much closer than NICS background checks alone because NICS checks are done for many other things as well.

Gun sales, measured in the NICS system, give us a strong representation of how many guns were purchased in a given year in each state.

Looking at the restrictive states compared to the non-restrictive states will show if the restrictive state laws are repressing the exercise of the right to keep arms by repressing the number of people who purchase firearms.

The number of people who have permits to carry is not as easily obtained. The Crime Prevention Research Center (CRPC) has worked to determine how many carry permits exist in each state. The numbers reported in 2021 will be used for this comparison.

This is a quick, first-order comparison to see if any obvious disparity exists. If no disparity exists, a more sophisticated analysis may or may not show those laws repress the exercise of Second Amendment rights.

Population figures for the states were taken from the 2020 census. Gun sales and carry permits will be expressed as rates

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KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; constitution; repression
The restrictive states are repressing the right to keep arms by about 66%, and the right to bear arms by about 88%.
1 posted on 10/08/2022 4:55:27 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
In my state you almost have to know somebody to get an LTC. In addition to SCOTUS's recent ruling,they handed down a *unanimous* decision in 2016 in the case of "Caetano v Massachusetts". In its decision,SCOTUS stated that the Massachusetts state Supreme Court decision upholding Caetano's conviction on an unconstitutional state gun law was "frivolous".

Of course politicians (and judges) in Massachusetts are among those who can be found,nationwide, to believe that the Constitution is "a living document"...meaning that it says whatever *they* want it to say.

2 posted on 10/08/2022 5:14:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I Miss Jimmy Carter)
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To: marktwain
There should be no gun laws re law abiding citizens. On the other hand, we should go all medieval on feral "yuts", crimigrant invaders, convicts.....

I.e., we should enforce the law, punish wrong doers, immediately execute capital offenses, and the guns will take care of themselves.

3 posted on 10/08/2022 5:15:24 AM PDT by LouAvul (Complacency is the enemy of courage.)
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To: marktwain

Modern(key word) gun control laws today tend to disproportionately impact mostly Republican leaning constituents and Democrats know this which is why they so aggressively push gun control. Their rhetoric about reducing crime is just window dressing for their real motives which is to disarm and/or make most vulnerable their political enemies(most of us) so they can engage a “Night of the Broken Glass” type event againt us.

I believe this quite literally.


4 posted on 10/08/2022 5:23:19 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: marktwain

The only gun law that should be in existence today is if you commit a felony with a firearm 10 years are added to your sentence and that is non-negotiable. Defense attorney gets your sentence down to 6 months, you still have that 10 years in prison. Well that and murder with a gun is life without parole and killing a cop is automatic death sentence.

I think those laws would reduce violent crime a bit.


5 posted on 10/08/2022 5:28:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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To: marktwain

I hate to say this but Blue State Citizens prefer repression and if people who remain in these Blue States want to exercise any rights will need to leave and leave the cesspools to the ones who prefer being victims and slaves.


6 posted on 10/08/2022 5:33:15 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Well that and murder with a gun is life without parole and killing a cop is automatic death sentence.

Why would you put cops on a pedestal above the rest of US? An automatic death sentence for killing a cop but not for me and mine. No sale.

7 posted on 10/08/2022 6:35:54 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: marktwain

NY is doing all it can to repress our Constitutional right to bear arms. Takes close to 2 years to obtain a pistol permit that they say you cannot leave your home with unless it’s carried separately in a case from the ammunition and only to a gun range. That in itself is the definition of repression.


8 posted on 10/08/2022 6:37:11 AM PDT by MGunny ( )
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To: marktwain

Unintended Consequences by John Ross


9 posted on 10/08/2022 6:54:52 AM PDT by SisterK (the final variant is communism)
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To: MGunny
NY is doing all it can to repress our Constitutional right to bear arms. Takes close to 2 years to obtain a pistol permit that they say you cannot leave your home with unless it’s carried separately in a case from the ammunition and only to a gun range. That in itself is the definition of repression.

New York infringements on the exercise of Second Amendment rights is currently being addressed by the courts.

10 posted on 10/08/2022 8:19:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; All
The main reason that some states are repressing exercise of 2nd Amendment (2A) rights is this imo. Not only is the very corrupt, alleged election-stealing Congress not doing its constitutionally enumerated duty to make laws to protect citizens from state abridgment of 2A, but likewise corrupt executive branch probably wouldn't enforce such laws even if Congress was making them.

Excerpted from the 14th Amendment:

In fact, the congressional record shows that when Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A), read the Bill of Rights as main examples of constitutionally enumerated protections that 14A applies to the states, he included 2A!

The great irony of 14A in the context of 2A is this. Corrupt, election year federal career Democrats and RINOs are now making constitutionally indefensible peacetime restrictive gun laws to try to get themselves reelected, instead of doing their sworn duty to make 14A-based gun laws that discourage state actors from abridging 2A rights.

But also consider that Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters now have the golden opportunity to clean up anti-2nd Amendment Congress by electing Trump-endorsed, pro-2A MAGA candidates as federal and state lawmakers (governors too) in a month.

Insights welcome.

11 posted on 10/08/2022 9:58:56 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: BlackbirdSST; EQAndyBuzz
Why would you put cops on a pedestal above the rest of US? An automatic death sentence for killing a cop but not for me and mine. No sale.

I'm with you on that. I've known too many bad cops, some that deserved to be shot for what they did under color of authority. In front of a judge the officer has "Established credibility". You're assumed to be lying. Guess where it goes from there.

NO. Police officers are not so special that they rate an automatic death penalty upgrade.

12 posted on 10/08/2022 12:59:58 PM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: marktwain

In my lifetime, rights have become technicalities to be finessed by the ruling elites for whatever policies they want. I see judges do that all the time. What we saw after the Big Steal, was that we lacked “standing” to complain about the most fraudulent election in American history. The Second Amendment scares the hell out of these elites. Imagine if Trump had called forth the militia as CIC, and those protestors in DC on Jan. 6, 2021 had been armed? That’s not anything anyone here should want, BUT the right to bear arms was not constitutionally protected for just hunting.


13 posted on 10/08/2022 2:01:33 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: BlackbirdSST

“ Why would you put cops on a pedestal above the rest of US? An automatic death sentence for killing a cop but not for me and mine. No sale.”

Because their job is to protect and serve the public. They risk their lives for us. However, if you say, “ No sale” that’s why we have a second amendment. The sale is a criminal with a firearm faces the risk of not knowing if his victim is armed. The criminal knows the folks armed.


14 posted on 10/08/2022 2:32:25 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Because their job is to protect and serve the public.

That hasn't been their job for quite some time. You may find a hand full of Sheriff's that find some duty in being LEO's but your run of the mill cop is proving with frequency that they only work for their pay master.

15 posted on 10/08/2022 2:58:59 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

“ That hasn’t been their job for quite some time.”

But it is their job. And it’s tougher doing it when your elected officials take your weapons away, defund your departments and let the murderers you arrested back on the streets. Want to change it? Change the politicians by voting them out. That’s the process.


16 posted on 10/08/2022 3:41:31 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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To: marktwain

I don’t know Mr. Twain, but 20,000 federal, state and local gun laws are a bit too much.

5.56mm


17 posted on 10/08/2022 3:55:19 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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