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1 posted on 09/27/2022 8:46:36 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
I guess this lovely Russian stooge is going to ignore the morality/legalities of armed invasion of a sovereign country.

Holding stolen territory so it can "vote" while the invading troops control is also nonsense. Don't think that anyone is fooled

2 posted on 09/27/2022 8:52:42 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: Kazan

defense plants that are operating 24-7 and producing ammunition, vehicles, tanks, drones, missiles and rockets.

well yes and no

their drones are coming from Iran

and they better hope they have a good supply if chips for their electronics, because their supply line is gone, so...


5 posted on 09/27/2022 9:21:40 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Kazan
Those Russians working so hard in the factories are careless with their cigarettes and sometimes the factories burn down.

Video of a burning factory reportedly in Russia's Novokuznetsk

9 posted on 09/27/2022 9:50:30 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan

This sham referendum is about as valid as an counties bordering Mexico voting to join the cartels.

It should be totally ignored.

L


12 posted on 09/27/2022 9:57:07 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Kazan

We (The United States) chose to help one side in this conflict.

We chose to help Ukraine.

The battlefield for this conflict is thousands of miles away from us.

There are two oceans between us and this conflict.

There is not an immediate need for us to intervene in this conflict.

That leaves us to guess why we have intervened in this conflict.

Did we intervene because we figured the Russian Army might roll through Ukraine and then Europe and then attack us?


21 posted on 09/27/2022 11:03:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Kazan; PIF
PIF, this doesn't feel like winning.

The US is not the only country facing this challenge. In a recent war game involving US, UK and French forces, UK forces exhausted national stockpiles of critical ammunition after eight days.

Russia, by contrast, enjoys the luxury of defense plants that are operating 24-7 and producing ammunition, vehicles, tanks, drones, missiles and rockets. The west still labors under the delusion that Russia’s economy is barely tottering along. Russia has the minerals, material and qualified personnel required to produce what the Russian military needs to sustain operations; especially intense combat operations.

I do not know if this was the Russian plan from the outset–i.e., conduct operations that would create a de facto disarmament of the United States and Europe–or if this is pure serendipity. Regardless, the west has no viable options, short of nuclear war, of defeating Russia in Ukraine.

22 posted on 09/27/2022 11:04:57 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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The only thing “gamechanging” about it is that is shows Russia to be so desperate that only the paid propagandists are still trying to pretend Russia isn’t losing.


24 posted on 09/27/2022 11:28:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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PCR wrote this and linked to the piece posted. Here is his commentary:

A Fateful Moment of History Is Upon Us
Paul Craig Roberts

Dear Readers, I have explained to you that there has been no Russian defeat in Ukraine and will not be a Russian defeat. I informed you that Putin and the Kremlin are committed to one important thing that differentiates Russia from the US and that is that Russia follows international law and the US does not.

This is why there has been no “Russian invasion of Ukraine” as proclaimed by Western propagandists. Kiev, the functioning of the Ukraine government, and the cities and infrastructure of western Ukraine have not been attacked.

The Kremlin has limited its military operations to the areas in Ukraine where the majority Russian population was being shelled, occupied, and murdered by Ukrainian forces and which faced last February an invasion of a large Western-trained Ukrainian army and neo-Nazi militias intended to overthrow the two independent Donbass republics recognized by the Russian government.

The republics requested Russia’s intervention, which made the “limited military operation” legal under international law.

As my readers know, I regard the limited operation a mistake as it has drawn out the conflict and allowed the West to get deeply involved, thus promising a wider war that would likely turn nuclear. I thought and still do that Russia was emphasizing legality at the risk of nuclear war.

The Kremlin has now acted to remove the constraint of international law with the referendums in the four areas whether the inhabitants wish reunification with Russia. It is clear that the vote will be yes, and that the Duma and the Kremlin will proceed rapidly to reincorporate the former Russian territory back into Russia.

At that point Ukraine’s continuation of the war involves direct Ukrainian aggression against Russia herself. This frees the Kremlin’s hands as the war becomes Russia’s response to Ukrainian aggression. At this point it will be clear to all involved that Kiev, the Ukraine government, and the cities and infrastructure of western Ukraine no longer have immunity. In other words it becomes a real war with devastating consequences for Ukraine and possibly as well for all Western suppliers of weapons and intelligence.

Americans are not prepared for this, because all they have heard about the conflict is Russophobic propaganda and false reporting of the reality.

Larry Johnson, an honest and competent commentator, repeats this account and adds that the West lacks the capacity to produce weapons and ammunition on the scale demanded by a full war and that the European economies are facing shutdowns as the consequent of US sanctions against Russia. The message is that the US/NATO have no means of preventing a rapid Russian conquest of Ukraine except by resort to nuclear war, in which case the Western World will cease to exist.

That we could be in this extremely dangerous position is due to the total absence in the West of an honest and independent media and of honest and competent Russian experts. Essentially, there is no intelligence in the West among those making decisions and no accurate information getting through to the Western populations.

I and a few others have made huge efforts, but we are called “conspiracy theorists,” “Russian agents/dupes,” and other names used to discredit those who actually understand the reality of the situation. The growing restraints on what can be said, or if said paid attention to, has created massive ignorance as we come to a possible fateful moment in history.


29 posted on 09/27/2022 1:04:20 PM PDT by Vlad0
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