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Russia doesn't want open conflict with US, NATO
teletrader.com ^ | 9/23/22 | teletrader

Posted on 09/23/2022 6:21:48 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: Yo-Yo

Please provide links.


61 posted on 09/23/2022 7:24:54 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: circlecity

Russia signed onto the UN Charter back in 1945 which recognizes the sovergnty of existing nations.

But Russia has become aggressive and is violating that charter and now need to be put down.

Putin is the Hitler of my lifetime.

And as far as New Mexico, Mexico decided they weren’t going to honor the peace treaty signed by Santa Anna and attacked Texas which was an independent Republic at the time. So the US intervened and went down and captured Mexico city. At which point Mexico ceded everything north of the Rio Grand. And New Mexico ended up a territory controlled by the US for the next 60 years before they were finally allowed to be come a state.


62 posted on 09/23/2022 7:26:55 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: woodbutcher1963
According to Tucker Carlson last night, the Ukraine and Russia had a peace agreement in April where Russia was going to pull its troops out if the Ukraine agreed not to join NATO.

Tucker lies by omission. Putin also demanded a de-militarized Ukraine, recognition of Crimea as being Russian, recognition that Luhansk and Donbas Oblasts are independent, giving evey Oblast the right to leave Ukraine and recognition of Russian as an official language. Its a de-facto end to Ukrainian independence.

63 posted on 09/23/2022 7:27:42 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: JonPreston

Sure, like that’s a thing.


64 posted on 09/23/2022 7:28:46 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: DannyTN

So you agree. We invaded Mexico and annexed a big slice of their country.


65 posted on 09/23/2022 7:30:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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One thing about the New Soviet exactly like the Old Soviet: a foreign policy based on next-morning drunken regret.


66 posted on 09/23/2022 7:31:35 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: circlecity

Only after they attacked Texas.


67 posted on 09/23/2022 7:33:53 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: circlecity

When did Ukraine attack Russia? They didn’t. They were a peaceful neighbor. But Russia has designs on their natural resources and doesn’t care how many people they kill to get it.


68 posted on 09/23/2022 7:34:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Yo-Yo

It’s a thing when one wants to have their opinion taken seriously.


69 posted on 09/23/2022 7:36:55 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Yeah me too

Let’s call it Ukrainian peace where Russia stays out of Ukraine.


70 posted on 09/23/2022 7:40:37 AM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: walkingdead

—> I fall in the George Washington camp, who urged the American people to take advantage of their isolated position in the world, and to avoid attachments and entanglements in foreign affairs, especially those of Europe, which he argues have little or nothing to do with the interests of America.

The colors on the map of Europe have been changing for thousands of years.

They will change until Christ returns.


71 posted on 09/23/2022 7:46:24 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: DannyTN

Which wasn’t part of the US at the time.


72 posted on 09/23/2022 7:55:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: JonPreston

“Using your NATO expansion argument, the Luhansk, Kherson, Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia regions are holding safe and secure elections to join Russia for protection from NATO, Washington and London.”

False analogy, because the former Soviet satellites are independent and sovereign nations, and they joined NATO as whole nations.

That is not the case with the separatists in Ukraine. I have no issue with them voting, as long as they follow the law, as set forth in the Ukrainian constitution, which does provide for such referenda, but with the qualification that ALL citizens of Ukraine get to vote on the matter (as it affects them all) and not just the residents of the separatist territories.

It’s simple: Just follow the law.


73 posted on 09/23/2022 7:55:45 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: JSM_Liberty
Talking peace is meaningless when you are invading another country.

Doesn’t Russia have a right to defend its friends in the beleaguered Republics of Luhansk, Donetsk, and Russian Crimea? The same way we defended Saudi Arabia in 2 wars?
74 posted on 09/23/2022 7:55:57 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: DannyTN

When did Mexico attack the US?


75 posted on 09/23/2022 7:56:38 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: lonestar67

Why is it Neocons are more concerned with the border of Ukraine than with our Texas border?


76 posted on 09/23/2022 7:57:39 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: circlecity

They didn’t. They attacked the Republic of Texas which pissed us off.

Just like Russia attacking Ukraine has pissed us off.
Fortunately for Russia, we’re only arming Ukraine so they can defend themselves.


77 posted on 09/23/2022 8:00:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: lonestar67
Let’s call it Ukrainian peace where Russia stays out of Ukraine.

Peace? Like the violent Revolution that overthrew Ukraine’s Democracy in 2014? That peace? Like the 8 years of brutal bombing of Disenfranchised voters in East Ukraine? If that’s peace, what’s your definition of war?
78 posted on 09/23/2022 8:04:38 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: JonPreston

“thank god one side is talking peace.”

You’re such a fraud. You’ve been cheering on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine since Day One. Not a day goes by that you don’t applaud some Russian aggression.


79 posted on 09/23/2022 8:05:01 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
I have no issue with them voting

Good. On the 27th these states will be part of Russia, enjoying all subsequent protection Moscow can provide. Any attack on them by NATO or it's proxy, the Ukraine, will be justifiably viewed as an act of war.

It's a joyous day. Eat, dance and sing!

80 posted on 09/23/2022 8:05:43 AM PDT by JonPreston
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