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New Poll on Student Debt Bailout and How Biden Tactic Is Backfiring Big Time
Red State ^ | 09/07/2022 | Nick Arama

Posted on 09/07/2022 8:45:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

We’ve seen Joe Biden and the Democrats throwing a lot of desperate things out there trying to move the needle to help them in the midterms. One of those was the despicable tactic of demonizing millions of MAGA Americans. Biden did it hoping to jazz up the leftist Trump-hating base, hoping that would get them out to vote because of the “threat to democracy.” But, as I reported, that effort to juice the vote may have backfired. A new Trafalgar poll done in partnership with the Convention of States shows what a huge blunder it was. The majority of Americans thought that was a “dangerous escalation in rhetoric” and “most voters were sickened and deeply disturbed by what they saw last week,” according to Mark Meckler, the President of the Convention of States.

Biden’s other tactic — buying votes from the base with student debt forgiveness — may be backfiring on him as well. In addition to the fact that it’s likely going to be found illegal at some point, only about 13 percent of Americans have student loan debt. This giveaway leaves out all the people who didn’t go to college or who have already paid off their debt, which is most Americans. All of us know that Biden is attempting to juice the vote by giving his base a benefit that we aren’t all getting but that we’re going to end up paying for. They don’t even have a real number on what that would cost yet — one count was a trillion dollars at a time when we are already suffering from 40-year high inflation.

While Democrats cite polls claiming student debt forgiveness is popular, a new Cato/YouGov poll shows that the majority oppose it once they understand some of the results of such a move, like higher inflation and rising tuition prices.

Support for student debt cancellation turns to opposition once respondents are made aware of even *one* of the tradeoffs.


https://t.co/CNOSHmqlzz pic.twitter.com/6bLYE18HGT

— Jason Sorens (@JasonSorens) September 6, 2022

So what does that mean for trying to use this to buy votes? As I’ve previously observed, I think it’s a horrible move. Once he does it, then the left is going to say why didn’t he just forgive it completely if he says now he can do it? So they still think he’s not going far enough. Then, the rest of the people are going to be angry that a select group got bailed out and that everyone else has to pay for it/suffer the consequences of the bad move. Not a well-thought-out political move either, in keeping with Biden’s tradition of being wrong about everything.

Now the Trafalgar Group is saying this move is having an effect — that there’s a major shift in places like Georgia, Washington, and New York that is directly traceable to this issue.

Folks I know the GA, WA, & NY #poll numbers are surprising but we at @Trafalgar_Group have seen a big shift in favor of non incumbents since #Biden announced his #studentloanforgiveness package. No other issue this cycle has enraged middle and working class voters more than this

— Robert C. Cahaly (@RobertCahaly) September 3, 2022

“Folks I know the GA, WA, & NY #poll numbers are surprising but we at @Trafalgar_Group have seen a big shift in favor of non incumbents since #Biden announced his #studentloanforgiveness package,” Trafalgar’s chief pollster Robert Cahaly. “No other issue this cycle has enraged middle and working class voters more than this.”

Cahaly is confirming that Americans are getting this and are ticked off. They’re going to punish the Democrats for pushing the idea. Now we’re seeing races that one wouldn’t have thought would be close suddenly turning tight like the governor’s race in New York where Republican Lee Zeldin now has a real chance.

Zeldin 43.4% up from Siena July 39% (& Hochul 47.8% down from 53%) in poll by independent & proven accurate Trafalgar Group. This year, Real Clear Politics called Trafalgar “the most accurate pollster of the cycle among those firms that polled multiple senate & governor races.”


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— Ed Cox (@ChairmanEdCox) September 4, 2022

Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) should have had a walkaway but she’s also in trouble.

New @trafalgar_group #WASen #Poll (8/30-9/1) shows incumbent #Murray in a somewhat surprisingly close race w/challenger #Smiley #wapol

49.2% @MurrayCampaign
46.3% @SmileyForWA
4.5% Und

See Report: https://t.co/7EAobIIJdv pic.twitter.com/4j466OYoYu


— The Trafalgar Group (@trafalgar_group) September 2, 2022

Herschel Walker has now moved ahead in the Senate race in Georgia in the Emerson and Trafalgar polls. Stacey Abrams is also in deep trouble in Georgia.

🚨 NEW GEORGIA POLL by Emerson

SEN
(R) Herschel Walker 46% (+2)
(D) Raphael Warnock 44%

GOV
(R) Brian Kemp 48% (+4)
(D) Stacey Abrams 44%

PRES
(R) Donald Trump 51% (+5)
(D) Joe Biden 46%

GEN BALLOT
Republicans 51% (+5)
Democrats 46%

600 LV | 08/28-29https://t.co/0Zw6xD5nLv pic.twitter.com/De5BkdmCPu

— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) August 30, 2022

We also see Blake Masters progressively closing the gap in Arizona, only three points back of Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ) with the momentum in his favor. Kelly is under 50 percent.

Looks like the Biden tactics may be backfiring big time.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: bailout; college; debt; pedohitler; tuition

1 posted on 09/07/2022 8:46:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Even some Rats I know are saying Biden’s bailout is profligate and alienating to those without a college degree or who already paid off their student loans. Good luck getting them to admit it to a pollster though.


2 posted on 09/07/2022 8:51:27 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: SeekAndFind
This will clearly motivate some to vote for Rats and also some to vote against Rats. We'll see just who is who.
3 posted on 09/07/2022 8:53:11 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: SeekAndFind

The bail out makes it hard for the collegates to brag about being collegates and enjoy loading it over others when the reaction they get is that which a theif gets.

Disdain, contempt , bitterness and hostility.


4 posted on 09/07/2022 9:00:47 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: SeekAndFind

All the fool needed to do was not a thing.


5 posted on 09/07/2022 9:04:12 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

They don’t care about the polls.

It’s all about destabilizing and destroying every last vestige of Western culture.


6 posted on 09/07/2022 9:06:32 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sadly those polls are well within the democrat cheating range. We need at least a 20 percent difference to beat the cheat. It amazes me that Americans are so dumb to vote for a senile madman at all. 46%? Really? It should be single digit. Must be the public education system with worthless degree mills that are poisoning our youth. Education should be left to the states and parents who are paying for their kids education should demand more legitimate courses that produce employable graduates rather that stupid gender studies courses and other such useless garbage. Smart parent should be steering their kids towards technical colleges and apprenticeships that produce workers with much needed and well paid trades.


7 posted on 09/07/2022 9:06:37 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: SeekAndFind

Encouraging news. But…

“…it’s likely going to be found illegal at some point…”

That’s the Democrats’ plan. Then they get to run on the issue again, and they can appeal to their base by railing against the courts yet again (in the process reminding them of the conservative Supreme Court that they hate). Plus they don’t have to deal with the resulting inflation if the courts block the spending.


8 posted on 09/07/2022 9:08:12 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: SeekAndFind

the october surprise is coming

and it’ll be a doozy


9 posted on 09/07/2022 9:15:34 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Gay State Conservative

im thinking someone with a ton of student debt is already a rat voter


10 posted on 09/07/2022 9:30:53 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: FormerFRLurker


Even some Rats I know are saying Biden’s bailout is profligate and alienating to those without a college degree or who already paid off their student loans.

absolutely right

Student Debt Bailout was vote-buying, pure and simple

only problem is they bought votes already theirs and made poor blacks wonder 'where's ours?'


11 posted on 09/07/2022 9:33:09 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nearly 2 years of this flaming dumpster fire of demonrat policies and demonrat politicians still polling ahead in many areas. Never underestimate the stupidity of the majority of voters. If they had brains there would be no demonrat party.


12 posted on 09/07/2022 9:53:21 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: FormerFRLurker

Who gave out handouts during covid and initial shot/shots. Everything Biden and fellow Dems do is give free money, free apartments, plus free healthcare to all illegals too. Our nation is being invaded.


13 posted on 09/07/2022 10:06:36 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: SeekAndFind

“Looks like the Biden tactics may be backfiring big time.”

Let’s pray to God this is true. I hope people are also paying attention to the imminent collapse of the western European economies because of their idiotic “green” energy decisions that past two decades.


14 posted on 09/07/2022 10:31:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable and Clinger, but I've been promoted to Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: FormerFRLurker
Good luck getting them to admit it to a pollster though.

I would assume they will still vote for Biden, however?

15 posted on 09/08/2022 2:02:38 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: TonyM

Agreed...they do not need to lead in polls. They just need to be close enough to flip the right precincts.

2 years of majority Republican legislatures and most of the root causes of the steal are still in place.

PA has a stumbling mumbling very sick man running a horrid campaign yet is ahead in polls?
Any fascist dumblecrat running for re-election after the horrid Wuhan lockdowns and vax mandates that are ahead in polls just astound me.
Really? Are our fellow compadres really that stupid? So easily led?

Can we ever heal our education systems so our kids minds are not poisoned further?


16 posted on 09/08/2022 3:31:26 AM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
the despicable tactic of demonizing millions of MAGA Americans. Biden did it hoping to jazz up the leftist Trump-hating base, hoping that would get them out to vote because of the “threat to democracy.” as a signal to Democrats throughout the nation that it is okay to cheat for the sake of "our Democracy."
17 posted on 09/08/2022 5:20:45 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Biden did it hoping to jazz up the leftist Trump-hating base, hoping that would get them out to vote because of the “threat to democracy.”

They went for Nazi Brandon.

But got diaperless Brandon instead.


18 posted on 09/08/2022 6:27:13 AM PDT by Boomer ( George Orwell: “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” )
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To: joshua c
the october surprise is coming

and it’ll be a doozy

We already know what it will be - they will arrest Trump in front of a pre-arranged forest of MSM cameras. This tactic will eventually backfire, too, but if they can restrain themselves from acting until the final weekend the shock may not turn into anger until it is too late.

19 posted on 09/08/2022 6:35:38 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Mark17

I would assume they will still vote for Biden, however?

You assume correctly.

20 posted on 09/08/2022 8:09:50 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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