How the Founders' original design would affect the US Senate

American Thinker ^ | August 28, 2022 | J.H. Capron

[boxlunch]

Bump for later reading. I always learn so much from your posts.

[Repeal The 17th]

After the passage of the 17th amendment, ask yourself this:
“What purpose does the U.S. Senate serve?”
“Why does it even exist?”

[Jacquerie]

The Senate’s foundation doesn’t support its purpose.

[central_va]

Figures YOU would have a problem with the obvious disaster the 17th amendment has been. Wow. New low.

[central_va]

The 17th amendment has been a disaster. Those denying it look like fools.

[central_va]

Oh stop it already. The 17th is a disaster and you know it..

[central_va]

It ias amazing how clueless some Freepers really are. The 17th is a disaster in progress.

[qaz123]

One person put it better than anyone.

It’s a club and you/we ain’t in it.

[fieldmarshaldj]

It was a disaster before. You want politicians choosing your elected Senators for you ? I certainly don’t. You’re not going to get statesmen again with the hacks in the legislatures picking them, you’ll get more hacks.

[x]

One House is apportioned by population. The other gives each state equal representation. One answers to rural and agricultural interests, and the other to urban interests. There’s your logic. Senators usuallly have to answer to a larger electorate than representatives. Also, it’s easier for nutjobs to become representatives than senators.

[Jacquerie]

Check out the link in #28.

[Impy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKRKWrx21u4&ab_channel=Sidewinder

[unread]

"Had their been an instrument in the Constitution allowing for a simple recall of a Senator by the legislature (for failure to follow instructions on how to vote), it would’ve fulfilled more of the Founding Fathers’ vision for that body."

Before the 17th., I thought the Governor of the state had the power the recall a Senator at any time.. Am I wrong about that.?

[unread]

Very good.!! Thanks for that... :)

[fieldmarshaldj]

No, there was never a power of recall. A Governor could only appoint a Senator in case of a vacancy via resignation or death, and then the legislature would elect a new Senator for the remainder of the term.

[central_va]

You want politicians choosing your elected Senators for you ?

Yes, absolutely I do. Most people don't even know the names of their state rep or state senator. This is how little the state ( vs the fed ) means to them. If the 17th is repealed you better damn well believe that would change. A change for the better.

[BillyBoy]

I kinda wish these dopes could get their wish for a few years so they WAKE UP and see for themselves just how incredibly awful the state-appointed Senators would be. Whatever super crooked hacks are appointed for life would suck so bad they'd make slime like Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein look decent by comparison.

It's like how we got cursed out here a few years ago by the Liz Cheney groupies who were pimping her carpetbagging into Wyoming so they could get a "fighter" in Congress.

Well... they CERTAINLY got one!

And NOW they see just "good" things were after daddy's little girl got to be a "fighter" in Washington D.C.!

[fieldmarshaldj]

I wouldn’t. Both my legislators don’t have a collective IQ that adds up to my shoe size, and I have big feet.

[central_va]

Both my legislators don’t have a collective IQ that adds up to my shoe size, and I have big feet.

They may now. Repeal the 17th and a higher caliber person runs for state office.

[fieldmarshaldj]

No, it won’t. I’m in a (Black) Voter Rights Act district in the State Senate and a White moonbat State House district.

What you want to happen in expecting better people to serve isn’t going to happen, not with a 17th repeal. What it would require would be something exceptionally dramatic, and that would mean returning our nation to being a Republic.

Right now, “Democracy” has failed us by allowing too many people to vote that have no business doing so. Raising the voting age dramatically to at least 30, disallowing those working for their government & gov’t contractors and their families/dependents to vote, disallowing those receiving any government payments, welfare, and the like from voting. Also even disallowing naturalized citizens from voting until they’ve been citizens for at least a decade. You literally have to have skin in the game to have the franchise.