Posted on 08/23/2022 10:36:25 AM PDT by JayGalt
I rec’d my first email request for money from DeSantis today. I do not live in Florida...
I think it’s not so simple. Suggesting that DeSantis will run, that he’d be a better, cleaner candidate, that he hasn’t got baggage like Trump has already been circulated ad nauseam.
Freepers get quite heated taking sides on these questions. At the same time the GOP & Left are trying to muddy & blood Trump. The strategy is quite clear to me and already playing out in the MSM and internet spheres. Siphon Trump’s support so we can weaken him & then take down DeSantis which is infinately easier.
Yes.
Exactly...do not fall for this.
If Trump & DeSantis run as a team, they can’t get FL electoral votes unless one pretends he lives outside of Florida, AFAIK.
Trump’s not going anywhere.
I don’t think they’ll run as a team, but they’re obviously working together.
Personally, I’d like to see Trump be the hero...but not the candidate. He is fighting back, and while I personally think he should have fought back harder against the leftist attacks, he didn’t have a lot of allies. Now he does and he has the momentum (and increasing support) to keep it going and could make a huge difference.
They can’t run as a team and I don’t think they even would, because they’re both strong personalities. DeSantis was my Rep and he got things done and he has done that as well in the state, but he’s not a big media person, and maybe people don’t realize how tough he is.
So DeSantis has been fairly low profile (but deadly) until recently, and I think it was probably because Trump has told him to get out there and strut it. “Top Gov!”
“””This guy lost me when he started babbling about bunkers.
I don’t know exactly what ‘Sundance’ has up his butt that’s got him talking this smack about the most effective GOP governor currently in office, but with ‘conservative’ friends like this, who needs enemas?”””
Tinfoil hats are cheap and seem to come out of nowhere.
But...so what? Isn't any practical impact of that still 100% dependent on whether or not DeSantis ends up running? So Freepers argue...we always argue. You can't get to the "I'm sitting home" stage unless they both run. Maybe not even then, but certainly not unless/until then. Otherwise, the temporary arguments/disagreements will just fade away otherwise when DeSantis isn't in the race, and Trump is. There's nothing to argue about at that point.
At the same time the GOP & Left are trying to muddy & blood Trump. The strategy is quite clear to me and already playing out in the MSM and internet spheres.
They've been doing that since 2015 and aren't going to stop regardless. Take DeSantis out of the equation, and they'd just put that much more energy behind some other alternative without missing a beat. Beating up Trump comes independent of whomever the alternatives happen to be.
Siphon Trump’s support so we can weaken him & then take down DeSantis which is infinitely easier.
I just don't see how that would play out in a world where all this stuff about DeSantis is fake. So they all gang up on Trump, and he ends up not running or whatever. That leaves DeSantis -- who has sat out until this point under the theory that it was all fake. How does that make it easier to take out DeSantis? I think it would be much easier to take out Trump than to take out DeSantis afterwards. Because at that point, it starts looking a lot more like an attack on policy than on Trump's perceived personal foibles, and that won't sell to potential GOP voters. They've already gone after him hard because of what he has done on Florida, and they're going to keep going after him hard to try to beat him this November. But if he wins, they clearly don't have enough on him.
I don't think the speculation about DeSantis is fake. I think it has two basic sources, both of which are "legitimate". The first are conservative Republicans who like Trump's policies, like a guy who is combative, but don't like Trump's...Trumpiness. Those folks really want him to run, and are pushing for that.
I think the second category are leftists who are terrified of DeSantis as the "Trump-replacement" who would be much harder to attack simply because he is a much more disciplined communicator.
It's a shame, really. Sundance is intelligent and is a very good reporter in the sense that he tracks timelines and connects events well. And he's a good America-loving Trump fan.
However, he's gone full Cheney level mental regarding DeSantis.
Sundance is so in love with Trump that something has broken in his mind similar but opposite to how many are broken over hatred of Trump.
DeSantis is great. Some Only-Trumpers are scared to death of Ron. NOT because he is bad, but because he is so good.
Ron holds the key to Don's destruction, should he care or need to use it. Ron knows and Don hopefully is beginning to realize that.... The Trump SwampVax is a poisonous 16 ton anchor. Ron could drop it. Then Ron is to Don as Don was to Bush. Both George and Don made gigantic mistakes that cost us immeasurably. Huge failures with good intentions are still huge failures. As Don gleefully pointed out about Bush.
Even the horrible bureaucrats and 3 letter agencies are starting to turn on the covid issue. By 2024, the story will be Trump killed the world by creating an untested gene therapy and lying about it being safe and effective when neither is true.
I can forgive Trump if he repents, but his ego might kill him.
The Trump SwampVax is The Don's WMD pursuit.
Ron knows it. And he was the only Gov to stand between innocent babies and the Trump SwampVax.
Sundance, another FL guy, knows this well. He is scared.
Ridiculous rubbish!
You have an active imagination!…..
That ad was REALLY awesome!! Best governor in the US. Looking forward to President DeSantis... someday. ;-)
You want to tear Florida apart start a Trump vs. DeSantis campaign.
Cruz vs. Trump tore Texas apart and almost cost us the state.
Trump/Lake 2024
DeSantis/Lake 2028
DeSantis/Lake 2032
Lake/ ? 2036
At times, yes.
Which part of my comment is not true in your imagination?
“””By 2024, the story will be Trump killed the world by creating an untested gene therapy and lying about it being safe and effective when neither is true.”””
If Trump does run in 2024, I agree the opposition will use his promotion of the vaxx against him.
Trump’s obvious rebuttal of such a smear would be to say that the EXPERTS at NIH, CDC, FDA approved its use and he relied upon their expertise.
My belief is that Trump will run and this is an effort to syphon support. Whether DeSantis runs or not this scattering of chum is an attempt to damage Trump and suggest that people are not happy with him as the forerunner.
People believe what they read and the left/GOP-e is expending this effort to reduce turnout by the MAGA crowd.
May I suggest you are judging the voter base by your own logical and involved standard. Trump appeals to a broader base many of whom are fickle, ill informed, emotional thinkers and gullible. They are the ones the MSM/Uniparty are targeting.
I have to agree with Genevieve.
This analysis has holes you could steer a battleship through. Trump pushed for a cure or treatment. The CDC NHI blocked all his efforts. They said they could make a vaccine. Trump is neither a scientist nor a physician. He trusted their intentions. It was a very rare person and certainly an ultra-rare layman who would have imagined the depth of evil represented by those bureaucracies.
To his credit Trump always maintained it was a personal choice & couldn’t be a mandate. He refused to mandate any of the COVID shutdowns. He continued to try for treatments like the plasma from recovered COVID patients.
There is very little damage that could be placed at his door despite your lurid constructed narrative. He is a salesman and he passed on the reassurance that had been made to him by folks he thought were reputable. You understand that his information is curated and he was blocked from reading about the doubts and the previous failures and Moderna’s reputation? He is not America’s physician and he moved mountains to help provide supplies, hospitals & ventilators. Your recollections are selective.
Now try out your analytic skills on Fauci, scarf lady, WHO, the Chinese Government and Gates.
Sorry Guenevere not Genevieve.
Mea Culpa.
I agree Don will say that. Because that is what Bush said.
The Buck never stops at the top nowadays, I guess.
I want Don to do better. I want The Don to repent. You always want the ones you love to repent, from swamping and other sins, right?.
He should admit that jumping naked and nuts-first into the swamp was not the best way to drain it.
Forget the silly pledge to fire 50k fed employees... you can't get rid of a disgustingly thick patch of dick weeds just by pruning a few pubes. He must make it a goal to uproot whole agencies ( CDC, FDA, FBI, etc) and cabinet level depts (Education first to go).
Ron II could lead the Govs support for such worthy Americans-first goals.
The Don is going on about the 4th Amendment now and how his case affects us all.
Somebody needs to give him a copy of the 10th.
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