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Legal Bombshell: Leftist Judges Rule Alex Jones May Not Discuss 1st Amendment, Say He Is Innocent, or Claim Court Case Rigged
https://summit.news ^ | 21 July, 2022 | Staff

Posted on 07/21/2022 7:54:04 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Pollard

Jones is a public figure. You and I are not. Being on TV a few times does not make one a public figure; by no definition are the parents such.


21 posted on 07/21/2022 8:21:17 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Republican in occupied CA
As best I know, Bill Hicks Alex Jones did not call the parents liars while he was in possession of facts that showed otherwise. There is certainly a good bit of evidence (doctored?) that contradicts what parents have said. Wolfgang Halbig collected a lot of that, in good faith, I believe.

I've never see a fair exploration of the existing evidence in any MSM outlet.

Using parents' claimed pain to suppress public discussion of the evidence is authoritarian hooey, of just the sort in which The Liars Obama have regularly engaged.

22 posted on 07/21/2022 8:23:58 AM PDT by rx
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To: Red Badger
failed to produce documents that don’t exist:

Uh, that's not what thay says. It says he failed to produce documents that do exist. This would happen to any defendant who did that.

23 posted on 07/21/2022 8:24:51 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: Red Badger

I guess some want this guy to be a conservative hero. He just looks like a self-obessesed nut to me with no regard for anyone else.

He said the dead children were ‘crisis actors’, and said those poor children had not died. He called the parents of the dead children liars for saying they had lost sons and daughters. What kind of person would do that?

Sorry, he’s just another publicity seeking scumbag who is now whining about having to face the consequences of his actions.


24 posted on 07/21/2022 8:26:46 AM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: MercyFlush

I don’t need to scrutinize Sandy Hook very much to know that anyone claiming that people who were killed were not killed.

Facts. Juries determine facts. Did Jones claim something untrue, knowing it was untrue, to the injury of someone.
yes= guilty, no=innocent. Opinions about Jones, infowars, conspiracies and such are not the point of a trial.


25 posted on 07/21/2022 8:27:23 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Red Badger

I’ve been an on and off fan of Alex Jones for many years; mostly off. But I found his whole thing about Sandy Hook incredibly vile....and for no conceivable gain. I never saw what the hell he was getting at; nor how bent out of shape he got over it (easy to say with so many years in hindsight). He went way, way overboard and while I don’t wish him ill in any way, he’s gonna pay a massive price for his hubris. The legal system is gonna chew him up very badly.


26 posted on 07/21/2022 8:30:51 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: rx

Well, that is what the trial is supposed to determine. Did he or didn’t he. “As best I know” matters not the slightest from either of us. Juries determine facts. You have your opinion, I have mine. Some people would *never* consider a ‘fair exploration’ anything other than a report that confirms their views. If my kid were killed and some A-hole said they hadn’t been, I would indeed be in pain and be perfectly justified in destroying the live, economic viability and social standing of that individual, and the only reason I would do all that would be because I probably would not get away with shooting them


27 posted on 07/21/2022 8:31:44 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Red Badger

Alex. make the judge arrest you on air! It will be prime time video and rebroadcast in 154 languages.

No greater publicity could ever be bought. And then sue him and everyone around him till the lawyers bleed.


28 posted on 07/21/2022 8:32:40 AM PDT by wbarmy (Trying to do better.)
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To: cgbg

I fear you are right. They don’t play by the rules and they’re showing this but they dare us to call them out. If we call them out they simply deny it and say they are acting constitutionally and then laugh behind out backs. We have to act unconstitutionally now in order to save the constitution. That’s my .02 cents worth.


29 posted on 07/21/2022 8:33:33 AM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Republican in occupied CA

The msm slanders little people all the time with things like “white nationalist”.


30 posted on 07/21/2022 8:34:05 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Red Badger

If these are not criminal trials, and in fact civil trials, guilt and innocence should not be terms that are in the article.


31 posted on 07/21/2022 8:34:38 AM PDT by Round Earther
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To: Round Earther

Yes, civil...................


32 posted on 07/21/2022 8:39:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Pollard

Yeah.
I mean I’m white
and I’m a ‘Nationalist’ in the sense that any sane American would mean it (I want the government to take care of my interests - and yours- before giving money to anyone anywhere else, and to fix crime and disease here before doing it in other countries, etc, etc). But somehow they put those two together in a way to get the easily manipulated imagining me standing there in a Klan robe in front of a burning cross.


33 posted on 07/21/2022 8:45:28 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Pollard

A “white nationalist” is anyone who opposes anti-white racism.


34 posted on 07/21/2022 8:45:49 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Red Badger
Essentially. And also an adverse jury instruction for his failure to comply with discovery. This is SOP in courts and is not caused by or related to conservative/liberal ideologies. I'm not saying there aren't politically-biased judges who play games, but this article is not evidence of that in the least

Seems like the alt media is trying to play it up as a J6-type kangaroo court case. But It isn't and it is not helpful to the conservative cause. Contrast: What the DOJ is doing with the J6 prisoners is blatantly unconstitutional.

35 posted on 07/21/2022 8:47:38 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: Red Badger

The article seems to imply that he can’t speak about those issues at all. The excerpts from the ruling indicate he can’t mention those issues before a jury at trial — such limitations are not unusual.


36 posted on 07/21/2022 8:48:45 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: The Old Hoosier

The court wants documentation as to how much money he earned from discussions of Sandy Hook. IE, a breakdown of revenue by the topic being discussed. Jones has no such record, and it would take devising a complex accounting system to even try to apportion income to topics, especially when income is mostly from an online store and not advertisers.

They turned over all their financial records, 100%.


37 posted on 07/21/2022 8:51:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Red Badger

The Left is all out in the open now. The Left thinks it has won, and is merely implementing its historical play book of tyranny. It is like the Supreme Court nominee who refused to define the concept of what a woman is — she was saying: “I’m in, and there is nothing you can do about it, cracker.”

“Alex Jones, we have you trussed up and there is nothing you can do about it.”


38 posted on 07/21/2022 8:51:18 AM PDT by odawg ( )
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To: MercyFlush

Good post.

Sandy Hook was the classic Deep State event.

Several researchers have attempted to look into it—and the Deep State went after them in full force.

Here is a podcast from a Florida professor on the topic:

https://www.unz.com/audio/gunsbutter_sandy-hook-and-the-politics-of-mass-shootings-331/

His university tried to fire him—but tenure and excellent legal counsel let him keep his job. However, he was banned from mentioning any affiliation from the university on his web page or his podcasts.


39 posted on 07/21/2022 8:52:52 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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I haven't read all the pleadings, but it sounds like Jones' defaulted. That means he failed to respond to the lawsuit or otherwise ignored court order and deadlines. If you have a default judgement issued against you, you've lost. So this trial appears to be damages only, and in that case, you're not allowed to argue liability at all.

So just taking it as a normal legal case, those rulings look legitimate. That's what happens.

40 posted on 07/21/2022 8:54:08 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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