Posted on 07/19/2022 10:32:13 PM PDT by GoKnow
Much as I admire Jordan Peterson in the social/psychological/religious/cultural spheres, I wish he should stay the blazes out of American politics. He has no real understanding of what we’re dealing with in this Country politically and why Trump is the only politician who has made positive inroads into solving our problems. And Trump is the person who should be back in the WH in 2024. Like so many academics, JP is squeamish and snobbish about Trump, about his personality. Calls him a divisive figure. Well, Trump is divisive precisely because he’s countering the woke Left and the corrupt media and Deep State in a way that has never happened before and needed to happen. He’s leading the fight against Globalism and the gravy train it produces for political elites. JP wishes for someone like the nonstarter Pence to head the GOP and the nation. This is a pipe dream, irresponsible and dumb. Peterson doesn’t get the fervor of American Patriotism, which is unlike any in the world, and how we have led the world for good under the right leadership. He’s noted how horrible Biden is but can’t come around to contrasting it with the good Trump achieved. Trump was leading a peaceful and financially stable world. Peterson could not even mention that in connection with Ukraine/Russia. Peterson has recently praised the Abraham accords to his Muslim listeners, but without crediting Trump.
He's also dead wrong to slam Trump for fighting election results and the election fraud that’s been rampant. What the hell does he think is going to happen if we don’t clean this mess up? If we don’t follow the rule of law which was clearly violated? Answer: He’s not thinking straight and he’s better off staying in his lane as a psychologist/mentor. To say there’s no proof of election fraud, means he’s done zero real world research on it.
While Peterson’s political opinions are beset with contradiction, it's not likely anyone will ever be in a position to challenge him in a political conversation.
I can’t imagine Trump ever slamming Peterson. Maybe Peterson should find a way to afford Trump the same respect. They both have a huge flock of followers and both of them are doing a world of good. A shame Peterson can’t see that Trump is forging an agenda that also counters woke madness and censorship. Doesn't this line up well with Peterson’s values and message?
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Dr. Peterson is a work in progress. Also, he is very Canadian. My Canadian wife came around on Trump based on his actual performance on pro-life/family issues, but it would have been much more difficult had she not lived in the U.S> for a couple of decades.
Be patient with Dr. Peterson. He is brutally honest about what he actually thinks, mostly asks the right questions, is hard-working and intelligent, and is intellectually very, very intelligent.
He comes from the milieu of evolutionary psychology, and that informs his thinking. There’s a lot of garbage for him to cut through.
I wish he would take a break from those Russian and German writers and pick up some Chesterton or Dickens, balance things out a bit.
Absolutely. Trump is the only person who has the fortitude to save this country. Peterson will come around. His personality bias gets the best of him.
That was a very good take on Peterson you made.
I like Jordan Petersen, but he should realize, divisive is needed at this point.
Along with some prison time for the demonratic leadership.
Pence = TrueDope
Yes he is. I would prefer more divisive. 😃😀 Anyone who goes up against the deep state, is automatically labeled as divisive. Wear their scorn like a badge of honor.
But we know he's a business man who thinks big and who is confident in setting and achieving goals. This does not go over well with leftists who clamp onto every victim-hood du jour and turn it into major national issue because they have no moral compass. So they cater to tribalism since that's more effective in garnering emotional support from the poorly educated, easily manipulated masses. And they really can't stand that he cares about America which seems to bother them no end. They are actually the divisive ones but have a leftist-ridden media on their side to claim otherwise.
“Trump is divisive precisely because he’s countering the woke Left and the corrupt media”
How exactly did Trump successfully counter the Left and the media? They’re much stronger now than they were before he was elected and he didn’t really do much until being kicked off after his Presidency and he had no choice other than to move to Truth Social which isn’t exactly the next Tiktok. The biggest things I can think of that he’s done on this front specifically are add to Twitter and CNNs bottom line.
Peterson is a Jungian which can addle one’s mind.
The left are not stronger than before Trump’s 2016 election. If they were, the Dobbs decision would not have gone the way it did, just for one big example. Never mistake panic for strength.
He’s Canadian what do you expect?
Or maybe some CS Lewis
The Left and the press are not much stronger now than before Trump
No one trusts the media and it’s opinions
The Left is who they’ve always been
Precisely
Peterson has come around on many other things..... not the least of which is a worldview that embraces Christianity as the real and positive force that it is. He may not have been specifically anti-Christian in years gone by (say decades ago before he became so well known) but I suspect that like anyone with strong opinions, he was battling an element of cognitive dissonance until it became too much for him to carry on with. Such is the nature of mankind that the existence and nature of God will be denied until God has had enough....
I suspect the same will be the case with Peterson’s view of PDJT. He is still clinging to a view that he will eventually have to admit to himself can’t be supported.
Divisive yep. What fellowship does light have with darkness
+++Excellent
C.S. Lewis? I’m still interested in getting past the first chapter... but it’s sooooo booorrriiinnngg!
To summarize, his belief system is essentially pagan and only occasionally intersects with God’s principles. Since he has swallowed huge volumes of lies in his intellectual life, it is hardly surprising that he is blind to the assault on truth perpetrated in the 2020 election cycle.
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