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Ukraine Should Admit Defeat NOW! Says Top U.S Military Leader
The Jimmy Dore Show via Youtube ^ | 6/11/22 | Jimmy Dore

Posted on 06/11/2022 5:51:33 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

Despite all the effusive praise the brave Ukrainian military has received in the western press, extolling all the humiliating defeats the Ukrainians have dealt the Russians, the reality on the ground appears to be entirely in Russia’s favor. And that reality was acknowledged on a recent Council of Foreign Relations Zoom call by retired lieutenant general and former deputy commander of United States European Command Stephen Twitty, who told the other neocons on the call that Ukraine simply cannot win this war and needs to sue for peace as soon as possible.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 10percent4bigguy; biden; bidenswar; corruption; mediabias; nato; putin; realgeneral; russia; scandal; theyknow; ukraine; ukrainelosing
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Ukraine forces outgunned up to 40 to one by Russian forces, intelligence report reveals
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Western MOD ( country not disclosed) leaked yesterday in Brit news more than 200 Ukies being killed a day, far more than the little corrupted beggar Zelensky has stated.

Also, already being stated by western intelligence agencies- Zelensky has been deceiving them with stating grossly inaccurate losses to his men, and foreign arms shipments unaccounted for…..oh really?

There is a reason the EU and NATO never allowed Ukraine to be admitted. Reality is setting in- finally. Just another Senile Joe debacle, so predictable.
Any comments by the Ukie war cheerleaders is appreciated….but I expect the sound of crickets, and calls for Zelensky’s ouster when all is disclosed.


41 posted on 06/11/2022 7:02:36 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Cathi

“I also read a while later that Ukraine issued a decree that they would investigate people returning to Ukraine after the conflict to determine where and how they left. No explanation was provided for that; but now seeing a possible connection...:-)”

The smarter ones will defect to Russia, and then have their families later join them. The IDIOTS will go back to what’s left of Ukraine and be prosecuted.


42 posted on 06/11/2022 7:03:15 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: fhayek

Take your ass over there Rambo.


43 posted on 06/11/2022 7:05:16 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Apparatchik

And before your final tirade against me you engaged (in the post I’m responding to here) in an Ad Hominem attack against Twitty because you had no choice which shows the weakness of your argument: you wouldn’t be using Ad Homs against Twitty if you had strength in other areas of your “arguments” nor dod you refute anything he said.

No sense bothering with further posts of yours or talking to you further as you’re hot headed and there’s no sense as you make no sense.


44 posted on 06/11/2022 7:05:22 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: McGruff

So much for Azov being fanatical nazis. We’ve found the mass murdering and genocidal nazis in Ukraine. They are all from Russia.


45 posted on 06/11/2022 7:06:25 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Cathi

“This is the seventh such incident in the last three days. Ukrainian pilots are afraid of Russian air defense systems and fly only to their positions.”

And they are VERY SMART to fear those air defenses. A few years ago our (US) fighters were in the Baltic flying close to Russian airspace. Russia lit up one of their air defense systems (probably an S-400), and the US planes IMMEDIATELY turned west and bolted over Sweden to safety...it wound up being an international incident since our planes didn’t first ask for transit permission of Sweden. But then can you blame them, as the pilots were scared Shiiteless?


46 posted on 06/11/2022 7:07:45 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Wow, your respect for retired military is astounding.

Are you in the Timothy McVeigh fan club?

Just because someone served in the military doesn't make them immune to criticism.

But you do love John Kerry, right? He's a veteran. I presume you think he's an expert on everything too. He was even the Secretary of State, so whatever he says must be right.

47 posted on 06/11/2022 7:09:01 PM PDT by freeandfreezing (Do I need the sarcasm tag?)
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To: Pollard

Knock down Western nations so that everyone’s equally miserable.
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Western suicide, self inflicted. Vlad said checkmate the minute vegetable head Joe instated Sanctions and weaponized the dollar. He ( along with the west) never realized Russia is in need of nothing, food, grain, oil, NG, commodities, metals, rare earths, etc….

….and yet the Ukie war cheerleaders continue….supporting senile Joes war will end like all his other policies- massive failures.


48 posted on 06/11/2022 7:09:47 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Cathi
This is a completely failed situation and all sides know it and the west is desperately looking for an exit ramp.

This is a completely failed situation and all sides know it and the west Russia is desperately looking for an exit ramp.

Welcome to our Russian propagandist friends. I fixed your typo.

49 posted on 06/11/2022 7:11:45 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Agree, Twitty NAILS IT. Impressive guy!


50 posted on 06/11/2022 7:12:06 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: EEGator
You want a country. You defend your country. You fight to the last man. You engage in guerrilla warfare. You try to enlist allies. You do what you have to do. It is easy as all hell for Steven Twitty to tell Ukraine what to do. I guess it makes it all easier for his "Counsel on Foreign Relations" ass to have Ukraine just 'give up'. I am not fighting. I am not telling the Ukraine to 'give up'. I am telling Ukraine to do what I would tell any sovereign nation to do. Make your invader's life a living hell. I don't know what is so hard for you to understand this.
51 posted on 06/11/2022 7:12:55 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Apparatchik

Ukraine is in a tough spot. US sends them a few dozen artillery pieces while Soros HQ EU sends Russia hundreds of millions of euros every single day via energy purchases. This Soros-Putin axis could very well be decisive here because Ukraine can’t endlessly fight invading Russian hordes with a knife in its back.


52 posted on 06/11/2022 7:13:10 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: McGruff

There were so many MSM news articles on AZOV and others in Ukraine for years, about how evil they were, how they mustn’t be armed, and all that went out the window.

Go figure.


53 posted on 06/11/2022 7:13:15 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Please don’t lower yourself to level of Ape-chick-twit with name calling.
Yes. I did make fun of his screen name.


54 posted on 06/11/2022 7:13:55 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: BobL

https://t.me/s/mincerchannel

The United States, imposing sanctions in connection with the Russian military operation in Ukraine, created the conditions for the formation of a “new G8” together with Russia, said State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin .

In addition to Russia, Volodin added China, India, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran and Turkey to the “new big eight”. Referring to data from the International Monetary Fund, he said that these countries in terms of GDP at PPP (purchasing power parity) are ahead of the “old group” by 24.4%.

In first place was China with $27 billion, India was in second with $10 billion, and Russia was in third with $4.5 billion. @mincerchannel
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55 posted on 06/11/2022 7:15:08 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: BobL

I thought the Chinamen own Africa now.


56 posted on 06/11/2022 7:15:36 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: freeandfreezing

Reagan must be rolling over in his grave at all the Putinist vomit on conservative websites these days. This is not the conservatism he bequeathed us.


57 posted on 06/11/2022 7:15:57 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: delta7

“He ( along with the west) never realized Russia is in need of nothing, food, grain, oil, NG, commodities, metals, rare earths, etc….”

Here’s one for you - Boeing can’t make planes anymore due to the loss of Russian Titanium. I suspect that Russia can still build planes though (although maybe without airbags in front of every passenger seat).

Once again STICKING IT TO PUTIN !!!

https://menafn.com/1104358892/Boeing-suffers-the-consequences-of-anti-Russia-sanctions


58 posted on 06/11/2022 7:16:29 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Cathi

stating that 200,000 of the “conscripts” fled at the immediate beginning of the military conflict. But, that was all it said and provided no evidence.
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No evidence by western fake MSM, old news if you choose to listen to non western MSM, the mayor of Kiev was quoted as saying many of the cities military age were fleeing into Poland,…he was on video begging them to stay and fight.

…..and now the Ukie Territorial Guards are outright deserting in droves in the east. I posted a video interviewing a Ukie Commander defecting and he was interviewed in a town hall getting his Russian passport.

The Ukies are toast, and the corrupted beggar Zelensky will be ousted sooner than later…..that said, the sooner Vlad takes Odessa ( if he chooses to ) the better. That will be the only way the Ukies stay demilitarized and out of NATO.


59 posted on 06/11/2022 7:17:44 PM PDT by delta7
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I want every member of Congress that wants this war to continue to fly their sorry rear ends to the front and start fighting.

The Russians will solve the problem once and for all.


60 posted on 06/11/2022 7:19:30 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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