Posted on 05/26/2022 12:11:21 PM PDT by Pollard
Ok I’m sorry i didn’t see any mention of u.s. marshals in that link either
Texas Department Public Safety spokesman Lt. Christopher Olivarez confirmed to a reporter during a live shot that police officers went into Robb Elementary School to get their own children during the massacre.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4066484/posts
Federal Marshalls were on site?
Wut?
Yeah, this story is going to die soon. Too many cowards in blue for this thing to have any legs.
Ok, that’s good. I was wrong to claim such a thing hasn’t been posted yet. I just want absolute facts so I can use the information to help stop such a thing from happening on my community. The useless bickering here is driving me crazy.
Thank you!
I don't know if you have or have ever had children, but my experience ended in the tragic loss of my only son. If I had the opportunity to race into some situation to potentially save his life, wild horses couldn't have stopped me.
Point is; she knew what she had to do and no brigade of LEO dumb defuses could stop her from acting on that instinct. She doesn't care if you or CNN or Fox or FR think she did a "life saving" thing! She got her kids out of harms way.
You’re the one who brought up “possible futures”, not me.
“Lunatics model”
Where did you get he had that?
“I was getting my info from the daily mail. They called it his pickup truck.”
Your daily mail link:
He first shot his grandmother in the head at home, then stole her car and drove it to the school, crashing in a ditch before he walked into the classroom and opened fire.
“I am now of the opinion that, as a concealed handgun licensee, should I EVER find myself in a situation where a LEO is in need of help, I will call 9-11 and exit the area.”
Don’t ever call 911 if you need help. An LEO might show up.
“Keystone cops, one and all.”
Please hold judgement on the agent that killed him till more is known.
and drives 75k pickup truck ?
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I’m curious to know how you know that pick up truck had 75,000 miles on it?
I’ve been reading a lot of reports that it was a $60,000 pick up. But unless it has $50,000 worth of cash stashed in the bed, then I don’t believe a 15 year old Ford F150 is worth $60,000. Or even $75,000.
right...then the photo calls it his truck...
like i said...sorry about the post.
funny...sorry...I screwed that comment\post up 6 different ways from Sunday.
How did she make it out alive with both her kids then, liar?
Compare and contrast the governmental actions here (children getting blown away) with that following January 6 (someone putting their feet up on Pelosi’s desk).
Not his truck
“So what happened?
“LEOs waited around for a half hour listening to shots?”
No record of that. Factually there was a pause in the shooting during that waiting time.
The Border Patrol and locals had a thirty minute gun duel with the shooter?
You must mean the point when they went in and were driven back with gunfire that could have been directed at the time toward the kids and teachers in the classroom.
For thirty minutes after the shooting ended, the locals, BP, S&R were busy formulating their attack?
Depending on the time you are referring to, if there’s no shooting, it could be that he even could have shot himself and no one was in danger. It’s been done. Ever tried to formulate an attack when civilians are involved. It ain’t easy and there were a few groups in the mix.
The first group of officers who responded to the shooting broke and shattered windows to help the teachers and students evacuate the school...
First let’s look at the timeline:
“It was 11:28 a.m. when the Ford pickup slammed into a ditch behind the low-slung Texas school and the driver jumped out carrying an AR-15-style rifle.
Twelve minutes after that, authorities say, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos was in the hallways of Robb Elementary School. Soon he entered a fourth-grade classroom. And there, he killed 19 schoolchildren and two teachers in a still-unexplained spasm of violence.
At 12:58 p.m., law enforcement radio chatter said Ramos had been killed and the siege was over.”
Something to think about is that the border patrol and team were required to clear the building so there would be a suspended time after the shooting of the perp until the ‘all clear’ announcement. When they went in, there’s no way they could have known how many were involved or where any of them were in the room as even this timeline is about witnessing and contains a certain amount of assumption including the time.
According to the Guardian, the shooter was barricaded in a classroom for an extended time with the kids and teachers inside. Yet many survived from the area as the perp was shot by a border patrol agent and the kids were led out. If the perp was interested in killing, why didn’t he just continue until he had killed them all? He carried a reported 7 magazines into the building leaving more just outside in a bag. So as there appears to be a pause in his actions, then anyone considering trying to rush him premature could have got more killed. And when they find out and say what caused some not to be killed, they will have the answer as to why it was or wasn’t the right thing to take the gamble of provoking the shooter to shoot more by rushing him.
Also, there appears to be an effort to dramatize this incident blaming the law enforcement groups for not getting it done in a manner or time the parents wanted. And that’s a given they would want to be done faster than they did no matter what it took or even in this case how many got killed as long as it wasn’t one of their kids. But that effort could easily have gotten more killed as some survived the event that were in the classroom.
When we have the answers to some questions, which we don’t yet, we’ll have a better idea why the law enforcement groups did what they did. But there are too many variables at this point to start pointing fingers and guessing. And the idea that people were being shot and how it happened could tell exactly that, how it happened. We don’t know any more than what we are told. All we can do is assume they are telling the truth and the total of the matter. Doubt it.
Wy69
Ms. Gomez found a way in to the school but the cops had to wait for a key?
My comments/questions were based solely on Ortiz’s statement.
As I said, “This explanation is as clear as mud.”
As all agencies involved play their little games in order to avoid responsibility for anything...as all agencies involved continue to reconfigure their statements in order to plug holes in their previous statements...as all agencies involved continue to circle back to placing the blame on Republicans, legitimate gun owners and eventually TRUMP, we will be inundated with lies.
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