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THE ART OF DISINFORMATION–WESTERN LIES ABOUT THE WAR IN UKRAINE
Sons of the New American Revolution ^ | 5/13/2022 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 05/14/2022 9:47:25 AM PDT by Kazan

f you want to know how the war is going in Ukraine, you only needed to take note of one piece of “news” today–Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin called his Russian counterpart:

US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin spoke with his Russian counterpart for the first time since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Pentagon announced on Friday.

The call lasted approximately an hour and was at the request of Austin, who used the first call between the two in 84 days to urge Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to implement an “immediate ceasefire,” according to a brief readout of the call. The two last spoke on February 18, a week before Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine.

CNN

If Russia was losing or completely stuck in Ukraine, one would expect that Sergei Shoigu would be the guy calling Austin and begging for mercy. Well, that is not what happened. It was Austin that placed the call, apparently unconcerned about his recent public call to weaken Russia. Why would Austin urge Shoigu to implement an “immediate ceasefire” if Russia was getting its ass kicked? Russia getting whipped by Ukraine is exactly what Austin has called for. Remember?

“We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine. . .”

If Russia is on the ropes, why call off the beating? You call off the fight when its your guy getting pummeled. The Russian offensive in the Donbass has ramped up significantly in the last week and it is carving up entrenched Ukrainian units with no hope of being reinforced or rescued by a counter-offensive.

War expert Justin Bronk says ailing Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine is FAILING

Let me highlight the lies for you. Start with Snake Island:

Russia suffers losses trying to secure the island after a series of Ukrainian attacks.

WRONG!! The Ukrainians tried and failed to take the tiny rock on the even of the Liberation Day celebrations in Russia on 9 May. Ukraine lost big–the death of more than 60 Ukrainian marines and members of elite AFU units, four fixed wing combat aircraft, 10 helicopters, 3 boats and 30 unmanned aerial vehicles. The Russians knew the attack was coming and were lying in wait. They apparently put some bait on the barren rock–some sophisticated missiles–to attract the Ukrainians. It worked.

Heavy bombardment continues at Azovstal as last defenders hold out.

DELIBERATELY MISLEADING. Yes, bombs and missiles continue to rain down on those parts of the Azovstal steel plant where a shrinking number of Azov battalion fanatics hunker down and send out video pleas for rescue. The a few of the wives of the men trapped in the bowels of Azovstal are now on social media begging for someone to save their guys. Here is one of the ladies, who previously posted a photo of her in her combat pose. The second image–she’s weeping for her man–showed up this week.

The situation in Mariupol is returning to normal and Russia controls the city. The Russians are restoring electrical and water services and providing food to the population.

Ukrainian counter-attack reaches Russian border and threatens to break Donbas supply line.

LIE–The Ukrainians have not reached the Russian border and at least one Russian Battalion Tactical Group has crossed the Severs Donetsk river and are expanding their position south toward Kharkiv. But this is a sideshow. The area is isolated and there is only one significant road running from Kharkiv to Belgorod in Russia.

DOUBLE LIE–There is zero threat to the “DONBAS SUPPLY LINE.” Those lines are south and east of Kharkiv. Just look at the map–the Donbas with the city of Luhansk is prominently displayed. Kharkiv is 230 miles northwest of Luhansk.

The map does get two things right–the Russia has taken Avdiivka and has surrounded Ukrainian troops at Severodonetsk. It is because of the progress Russia is making in the Donetsk that Lloyd Austin called Sergei Shoigu to beg for some mercy. I suspect that General Shoigu told Austin, идите стучите по песку (which is Russian for “go pound sand.”)

One more observation regarding the supposed defeat of the Russians north of Kharkiv on the border of Russia. The people writing on this cannot even get their facts straight about the size of a Russian Battalion Tactical Group aka BTG. Here are three different “experts” with their numbers:

Each Russian Battalion (BTG) tactical group has around 700-900 soldiers (Justin Bronk)

According to the DOD on 18 April there are almost a dozen BTGs in Mariupol. As each BTG has about 200 infantry, then 11 x 200 gives us 2,200 infantry. (Christopher Lawrence, Dupuy Institute)

A Russian battalion tactical group consists of about 1,000 troops. (Associated Press)

The western media has been crowing about the mighty Ukrainians wiping out a Russian BTG. Yet no photos of Russian medical units recovering the dead and wounded from the battle site have been published on Ukrainian or Russian sites. But let us assume the claim is true–the Ukrainians reportedly ambushed and defeated one BTG. It is meaningless as far as the progress of the Russian war effort is concerned. If the Russians were concerned about the battle over a pontoon bridge they would have deployed fixed wing and rotary wing support aircraft armed with rockets and delivered an artillery barrage on the attacking Ukrainians. That apparently did not happen either.

I am not privy to Russian war plans. But I do know that Russia would be rushing reinforcements to the area if this was an important battle. They are not. Even more telling is you are not seeing video and photos of a Ukrainian horde pouring over the Russian border. This looks to me like one more failed attempt reminiscent of Weekend at Bernie’s–propping up a Ukrainian corpse and pretending it is alive.


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To: kiryandil

His troops are apparently at killing Orkrainians.


Killing numbers are about 1:1, with replacement being slightly higher for the UA than your dear friends, the Orcs.


41 posted on 05/14/2022 12:59:43 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Cathi
Russia has in one weak significantly tightened the gap.

By how many kilometers?

42 posted on 05/14/2022 1:00:21 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Supposedly 11, though analysts repeatedly stress that this type of military conflict is always very slow. And over the last two weeks there were many times when it was 2-3 per day.

The Ukranian fortifications are extensive, frequently made of concrete and they have been putting them in beginning in 2014 for their fights with the separatists.

They refer to this as a war of “attrition”, not land accumulation. They want to kill the Azovs and they want to demilitarize in general. Lots of equipment and manpower destruction.


43 posted on 05/14/2022 1:10:16 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: PIF

As we remember, the Ukruhai supplanted the ordinary Orcs...


44 posted on 05/14/2022 1:11:17 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Cathi
No need for Telegram. Maria Dubovikova also has a twitter account.

Here is how her employer Alarabiya News describes her:

"Maria Dubovikova is a prominent political commentator, researcher and expert on Middle East affairs. She is president of the Moscow-based International Middle Eastern Studies Club (IMESClub), expert of Valdai Club and RIAC (Russian International Affairs Council)"

"Maria Dubovikova is a President of IMESClub and CEO of MEPFoundation. Alumni of MGIMO (Moscow State Institute of International Relations [University] of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia), now she is a PhD Candidate there. Her research fields are in Russian foreign policy in the Middle East, Euro-Arab dialogue, policy in France and the U.S. towards the Mediterranean, France-Russia bilateral relations, humanitarian cooperation and open diplomacy."

Sounds like a Russian government source to me.

45 posted on 05/14/2022 1:11:54 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

You may need to reread her post. It is an interview of a French medic who went to Ukraine TO HELP THE UKRAINIANS. He was on THEIR side. She did not do the interview. The medic was shocked at what he saw and was brave enough to go public with it.

She had absolutely nothing to do with the interview. She just shared it. It appears to come from a TV interview though it could be some other forum. I grant you that had she been a Ukrainian sympathizer she would probably have just kept it to herself...:-)


46 posted on 05/14/2022 1:26:31 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi
Update on the Russian/Ukrainian river crossings [both on same day] and how it's possible that the two were "conflated" by bad actors in the information sphere [i.e., the Usual Fabulists]:

Alexander Mercouris starts right in with his video posted 5 hours ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWJ4-XksnSE, goes for about ten minutes.

I'm beginning to agree with the opinion that this piece of agitprop was crafted to give the US CONgressional grifters a "fake because" to vote for the 40 billion to line their pockets and the pockets of their MIC buddies.

47 posted on 05/14/2022 2:00:55 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Yes, it was certainly an adjustment from yesterday’s program where he totally accepted the Ukraine story..:-)

I enjoy The Duran videos very much and wouldn’t miss one. Accurate information these days is so valuable and in very short supply.

One thing he mentioned that was new to me is that Russia is on the cusp of storming Syeverodonetsk. That would be a lot sooner than I had heard. But, maybe that is what is behind the full court press by the West to get a cease fire.

One area I disagree with Alexander on is that there is any chance that Putin is going to just go home even with an agreement to discuss donbass in the future...:-)

Russia is setting up permanent government in many of the already captured areas and has come out and said they are “there forever.” Ukraine missed the boat by backing out of the earlier beginnings of an agreement in Istanbul. The U.S. and the U.K will have to take the blame for pressuring him out of the tentative agreement.

What I am anxious to see is if he is still going to continue all the way through Odessa to try to get his land bridge and to deny Ukraine any sea access.

If Alexander’s info on Syeverodonetsk is correct there will be difficult times ahead.


48 posted on 05/14/2022 3:46:24 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi
What I am anxious to see is if he is still going to continue all the way through Odessa to try to get his land bridge and to deny Ukraine any sea access.

I myself am pretty sure that's happening.

49 posted on 05/14/2022 3:48:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: wardaddy; Kazan
Paging Slim Pickens


50 posted on 05/14/2022 4:21:08 PM PDT by Pelham (World War III is entering on cat's feet.)
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To: Cathi
Who could doubt this.   The Soviets created this culture.   Look back over the decades, Leonid Brezhnev was Ukrainian, Andrei Gromyko was Belarusian, Eduard Shevardnadze was Georgian the same as Stalin.

We need to stay the heck away from either side of their thousand year protracted civil war.

51 posted on 05/14/2022 4:49:10 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Cathi

Here is more info about the French man who witnessed all the Ukranian crimes. Interesting to note that Twitter removed one of the tweets...don’t know why.

Victorvicktop55
@vic_top55

1/ “I take full responsibility for what I say. While in Ukraine, I witnessed war crimes. All of them were committed by the Ukrainian army. But in France we don’t talk about it!” - Adrien Boke.

Here, the demobilized French soldier, the author of the book “Get up and go
5:36 AM · May 11, 2022·Twitter for Android

Victorvicktop55
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@vic_top55

2/ thanks to science”, went to Ukraine on a humanitarian mission and spent three weeks there. Upon his return, he made a difficult decision that could cost him his life or at least create many problems: he decided to convey to the French information about the crimes he had
Victorvicktop55
@vic_top55
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3/ witnessed in Ukraine.
Here are quotes from his interview:
When I returned to France from Ukraine, I was shocked: TV channels invite as experts people who have not been to Ukraine and do not know anything about what is happening there now. However, they dare to speculate

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Victorvicktop55
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5/ Not only do they not hide their views. They advertise them. I worked with these people and treated them. They openly say that they are ready to destroy blacks and Jews.
Being there, there was nothing I could do. Just watch and make videos. I have this footage and will
Victorvicktop55
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6/ use it as evidence of Ukraine’s crimes.
I witnessed how the Ukrainian military shot through the knees of captured Russian soldiers and shot in the head higher-ranking officers.

I have personally seen American cameramen making fake footage from the scene of the events,
Victorvicktop55
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7/ staging staging.
All destroyed civilian buildings, given out by Ukraine for bombardment of civilians, are nothing more than the result of inaccurate shooting by Ukrainians at military facilities.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine hide ammunition in residential buildings at night,
Victorvicktop55
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8/ without even informing the residents. This is called using people as a shield.
Butch is a staging. The bodies of the dead were moved from other places and deliberately placed in such a way as to produce a shocking footage.”

Full version of the interview in French
Victorvicktop55
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https://sudradio.fr/programme/andre-bercoff-dans-tous-ses-etats #vicktop55


52 posted on 05/14/2022 5:54:00 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi
It is an interview of a French medic who went to Ukraine

It is an interview of a French speaking person, whether or not anything else that person said is true is not supported by anything other than their statement. I didn't see any proof they were ever even in Ukraine.

53 posted on 05/14/2022 6:47:46 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Good-bye


54 posted on 05/14/2022 6:53:45 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: freeandfreezing
Your speculation is not based on anything

Utter nonsense. My sources are objective and providing some of the best war coverage in he world -- The Duran, Alex Christoforou, Alexander Mercouris, Gonazalo Lira and Jacob Dreizin.

You, on the other hand, believe the BIDEN REGIME. And, that is why you're going to look like a fool when this is all over.

55 posted on 05/14/2022 7:31:09 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: PIF
Its you who believes propaganda

Nope. It's YOU that believe the Biden regime propaganda.

The question is, how can you claim to conservative and believe the Biden regime? Inquiring minds want to know.

And, yes, the Russians are more credible than the Biden regime or nation that has embraced neo-Nazism and is one of the most corrupt in the world.

56 posted on 05/14/2022 7:36:04 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Cathi
He personally watched and filmed the Ukranians taking Russian POWs from vans carrying 3 or 4 at a time...asking them if they were officers.

For anyone that is interested the entire interview of Adrien Bocquet, you can watch it on Youtube Here.

The guy claims he saw Azov Battalion members saying various racist things, but he was in Lviv, not Mariupol, where the Azov Battalion is, and was surrounded.

He claims that the murders in Bucha were done by the Ukrainians, and he claims he was present when Russian POWs were being mistreated. But he did not post anything to his twitter account, and he seems to spend his time promoting his book on various media outlets.

It seems unlikely that some random French book author would find himself embedded with Azov in Mariupol, and just as unlikely that he would be present when recently captured Russian POWs were present.

Absent some evidence that he was actually even there, his story just sounds like it was recycled from twitter accounts he has seen.

57 posted on 05/14/2022 7:38:41 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Pelham

A great meme waiting to be made for the war crowd here


58 posted on 05/15/2022 1:40:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (Have you ever seen more crazy assed women than on parade nowadays.....it's astounding ...and ugly.)
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To: Kazan

I could give a total flying leap into a steaming pile what JoeB, you, or the Z and minions say or think. So there’s that.


59 posted on 05/15/2022 4:36:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
If you want to unify with Biden regime on this war, your sorry neocon ass over on the other side with Bill Kristol, Cindy McCain and Max Boot.

Conservatives aren't tolerating those that want to push us into a hot war with Russia, that want to waste billions of taxpayer dollars fighting a proxy with Russia or a sanction war with Russia that pushes gas prices to further record higts.

The war in Ukraine has absolutely nothing to do with our national security.

So, if you've got a hard-on for Putin and Russia, take a cold shower or castrate yourself.

60 posted on 05/15/2022 9:22:30 AM PDT by Kazan
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