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Americans Are Using Plastic To Make Ends Meet As Prices Continue To Rise
Zubu Brothers ^ | 5-12-2022 | Via SchiffGold.com

Posted on 05/12/2022 11:58:26 AM PDT by blam

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To: The Louiswu

Very similar.

Paying down debt, buying necessities for the long-haul, and food stocking.

What I do not understand is how they say the economy good, when people are resorting to credit to survive.

When this crashes, and it is going to crash in waves like a tsunami, it is going to be unlike anything we have seen in our lifetimes.

We do not need ‘techies’ in the Oval Office. WE need business people who know how to produce and what it takes to get an organization to the top.

All this culture BS, is nothing but distraction, from reality.


21 posted on 05/12/2022 1:41:45 PM PDT by EBH (Let God Sort Them Out. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: joe fonebone

It is a Visa Credit Card. It is not a debit card.


22 posted on 05/12/2022 1:44:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: Roccus

Money is a tool.
If you know how to use the tool, you come out ahead.
There are exceptions to this rule.
I recently dumped amex.
I sent my electronic transfer over early every month.
I got a late payment notice and charge.
When I called, they said it took them 5 days to process, so even though I paid early, it was posted late.
I asked them how I was responsible for their internal problems.
The guy just said that I owed it.
Dropped them right then and there.


23 posted on 05/12/2022 1:45:46 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Grampa Dave

I re read your post.
Sorry


24 posted on 05/12/2022 1:46:25 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks.


25 posted on 05/12/2022 1:47:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: blam

I make ends meet by stealing from people poorer than me.

My tax dollars subsidize their lifestyle so anything they have belongs to me first.


26 posted on 05/12/2022 1:49:29 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: The Louiswu

We’re doing the same. We have plenty of dry goods (beans, rice, etc) socked away. We’re building up the canned goods now. All it takes is buying a few extra cans of soup on each shopping trip.


27 posted on 05/12/2022 1:54:49 PM PDT by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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To: joe fonebone

Thanks for your concern.

Years ago, one of our not too bright younger relatives learned the hard way via a bank debit card.

We might consider putting our 2 debit cards into our gun safe and just writing a check for a couple of hundred $’s and cashing them in at our bank. Again, with the Covid stuff the 2 other branches have been closed, and the ATM at the bank is on a side road and exposes you.

A Wharton grad relative is pushing getting cash back with a $50-$100-? cash limit at the grocery store or whatever, when we use a credit card. She says that it is safer and less costly for the stores versus armored car pickup. She also, say that after this economic downswing is over, more and more stores will not accept checks at first and then no cash.

Thanks again for your concern.
Dave


28 posted on 05/12/2022 2:05:45 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: blam

Americans are doing exactly what they are damming their gvt for: spending money they don’t have. Foolish as hell. We really need to get our heads on straight.


29 posted on 05/12/2022 2:21:58 PM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: Grampa Dave; joe fonebone
Grampa Dave,

The info provided by joe fonebone is partially incorrect. Years ago, debit cards offered no protections against fraud. However, that has changed.

I recommend doing a web search on "debit card liability for fraudulent charges". The following information is copied from an on-line article:

"If you report a missing debit card before any unauthorized transactions are made, you aren’t responsible for any unauthorized transactions. If you report a card loss within two business days after you learn of the loss, your maximum liability for unauthorized transactions is $50.

If you report the card loss after two business days but within 60 calendar days of the date your statement showing an unauthorized transaction was mailed, your liability can jump to $500. Finally, if you report the card loss more than 60 calendar days after your statement showing unauthorized transactions was sent, you could be liable for all charges. This includes money taken from accounts linked to your debit account.

What if you notice an unauthorized debit card transaction on your statement, but your card is still in your possession? You have 60 calendar days after the statement showing the unauthorized transaction is sent to report it and avoid liability."

Personally, I only use my debit card for ATM withdrawals. I would never use a debit card for on-line purchases.

joe fonebone has a "No debit card" policy. I respect his position and would never criticize anyone that refused to use a debit card.

30 posted on 05/12/2022 3:07:55 PM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: Grampa Dave

Not to be argumentative, but wouldn’t the $50-$100 cash back at the store charged on your CC incur the high interest rate of a cash advance?


31 posted on 05/12/2022 5:47:25 PM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them)
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To: FtrPilot

Thanks for taking your time to explain this issue.

Thanks


32 posted on 05/12/2022 5:53:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: Roccus

“Not to be argumentative, but wouldn’t the $50-$100 cash back at the store charged on your CC incur the high interest rate of a cash advance?”

I don’t know,and it may vary from state to state.

For some reason, I seem to remember clerks asking if we wanted cash back on a credit card purchase. We never did that, and you are probably correct.


33 posted on 05/12/2022 5:57:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: Grampa Dave

“For some reason, I seem to remember clerks asking if we wanted cash back on a credit card purchase”

Perhaps I’m just cynical (I hear that comes with age) but in retail, everyone is out for the “up sale”. Could even be some sort of reward for the clerk involved for all we know. Remember, CC cash advances start charging interest from the day they are tendered...not at the billing cycle due date.


34 posted on 05/12/2022 6:43:28 PM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them)
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To: FtrPilot

“Personally, I only use my debit card for ATM withdrawals. I would never use a debit card for on-line purchases.”

We are in the same boat here.

Why use it to purchase items when you can use a credit card and the float to the next billing cycle and points.

We may just keep them in our gun safe and use them whenever we do rarely need cash.


35 posted on 05/13/2022 7:49:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: Grampa Dave
We may just keep them in our gun safe and use them whenever we do rarely need cash.

I believe that is an excellent idea.

Whenever you go to the ATM, you could get "extra" cash, up to your daily limit. Then put the unused cash in your gun safe. Next time you need cash, grab it from the gun safe and skip the trip to the ATM.

I like to keep about $1000 in my gun safe. Whenever the amount drops below $500, I go to the ATM and replenish my cash supply.

Why use it (debit cards) to purchase items when you can use a credit card and the float to the next billing cycle and points.

Agree!!!

36 posted on 05/13/2022 8:33:29 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot

“Whenever you go to the ATM, you could get “extra” cash, up to your daily limit. Then put the unused cash in your gun safe. Next time you need cash, grab it from the gun safe and skip the trip to the ATM.

I like to keep about $1000 in my gun safe. Whenever the amount drops below $500, I go to the ATM and replenish my cash supply.”

We used to do that during the Clintoon Crime years.

Your suggestion may be timely again.

Thanks!


37 posted on 05/13/2022 8:43:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: Grampa Dave

GMTA and You are welcome.


38 posted on 05/13/2022 9:16:51 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: joe fonebone
"Why would you use your own cash or debit card, when if properly done, you can use someone else’s, and get paid to do it?"

We have zero problems doing what you posted!

39 posted on 05/13/2022 10:59:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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