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To: Robert DeLong

I have been quite vocal in my position that I oppose US booths on the ground in Ukraine and US helmets in the air above Ukraine; but I have no problem with arming Ukraine.

Russia is a bully, and bullies will continue to bully until they are stopped. They can be stopped several ways, including literally and figuratively running out of gas, so they quit; physically stopping them and driving them away; physically killing them and making the survivors quit; when their people get tired of the crap and they get rid of their leaders. But stopped, they must be.

Because a bully is forever looking for a victim, the weaker the better; and if one victim succumbs too easily, the bully is encouraged to go after another. Until he is stopped.

There are some here on FR who say that Ukraine is a pawn in this New World Order that has so many here on FR in a panic. They say Ukraine’s corruption is part of this NWO, or a condition of it, so they cheer on Russia’s invasion and hope for Ukraine’s destruction. But, is not Russia itself corrupt? It has scores of corrupt oligarchs, and the biggest one is named Vladimir Putin, a former bureaucrat of the Soviet state who is now, by some accounts, one of if not THE richest man in the world! If there is such a NWO comprised of conniving oligarchs and globalists Vladimir Putin is certainly one of them. Yet, he is cheered on here on FR. Isn’t that curious?

Oligarchs or globalists or madmen or anyone seeking domination COUNT ON people being sheep, cowering in fear. They have NO POWER unless the people give it to them and allow them to keep it!

Here’s another thing, and it applies to anyone who seeks to dominate or subdue you and enslave you: NEVER SURRENDER! If you surrender, you have been defeated; because surrender requires choice, a conscious decision, and you have chosen to BE defeated. Fight them, and make THEM surrender. If you are killed in the fight, then you’re just dead; but you are NOT defeated.

I’m old school. I don’t believe in surrenders. I’m just not wired that way; it’s not in my DNA.


20 posted on 05/03/2022 7:12:45 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Just like Vietnam, we have advisors on the ground. If not in Ukraine, then elsewhere instructing them, and Nazis at that. We all know where advisors leads to by now, do we not? We helped Afghanistan defeat Russia, what exactly did we accomplish with that expenditure?

I see Russia protecting people in the Donbas region. Do they deserve to be subjected to violence because they choose not to be ruled by corruption, and decided to become autonomous?

I think Russia has suffered great losses because they do not want to harm the Ukrainian people. It certainly is not how we entered Iraq, but then again, we were there to fight to win, and we did everything within our power to minimise collateral damage.

So, you do not view the Nazis in Ukraine as bullies?

Both countries have oligarchs, as do we in this country.

Ti Russia, Ukraine is populated with Slavic people, and are therefore, more like brethren than they are enemy. Which is why I think Putin is treading as softly as humanly possible. Many countries view us as bullies, and in many instances we have behaved like billies ourselves.

Yet, you are surrendering your country and her citizens, for what exactly, to save Ukrainians? We are broke and getting broker by the second, yet you want to surrender our treasury to assist Ukraine. That would be fine if we could actually afford it, and if the dollar loses world currency status, watch the inflation blow the roof off of this country. You're not helping the Ukrainian people, nor are you helping America or her citizens.

22 posted on 05/03/2022 9:01:03 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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