I see Russia protecting people in the Donbas region. Do they deserve to be subjected to violence because they choose not to be ruled by corruption, and decided to become autonomous?
I think Russia has suffered great losses because they do not want to harm the Ukrainian people. It certainly is not how we entered Iraq, but then again, we were there to fight to win, and we did everything within our power to minimise collateral damage.
So, you do not view the Nazis in Ukraine as bullies?
Both countries have oligarchs, as do we in this country.
Ti Russia, Ukraine is populated with Slavic people, and are therefore, more like brethren than they are enemy. Which is why I think Putin is treading as softly as humanly possible. Many countries view us as bullies, and in many instances we have behaved like billies ourselves.
Yet, you are surrendering your country and her citizens, for what exactly, to save Ukrainians? We are broke and getting broker by the second, yet you want to surrender our treasury to assist Ukraine. That would be fine if we could actually afford it, and if the dollar loses world currency status, watch the inflation blow the roof off of this country. You're not helping the Ukrainian people, nor are you helping America or her citizens.
Nice try.
“Just like Vietnam, we have advisors on the ground. If not in Ukraine, then elsewhere instructing them, and Nazis at that.”
You’ve resorted to Godwin’s Law at the outset. Yet, even at that your comment does not make clear just whom you are talking about: Are the US “advisors” Nazis? Or are the Ukrainian people Nazis? Or, are they both Nazis?
The Nazi slander has become trite due to over-application, as has the “racist” slander. Both terms have been tossed about so casually that they have become meaningless. Today, anyone who disagrees with your (”your” in the generic sense) opinion is by default automatically a Nazi.
It is the go-to bogeyman. As is the so-called New World Order.
You do know, I assume, that to a “globalist” YOU are a Nazi? Ergo, applying that logic, being anti-globalist makes one a Nazi. Yet, to an anti-globalist a globalist is a Nazi.
The term has become meaningless.
“I see Russia protecting people in the Donbas region. Do they deserve to be subjected to violence because they choose not to be ruled by corruption, and decided to become autonomous?”
Protecting them? But for the Donbas being rich in natural resources Russia wouldn’t give its people the time of day. If Russia could wave a magic wand and make the people of Donbas disappear, and thus leave open the riches of the region, Russia would do it in a heartbeat. Russia doesn’t want to help the people of Donbas; Russia wants to take their lunch money, and give itself a land route to Crimea and the north coast of the Black Sea.
As for the people of Donbas being subjected to violence, that is generally what happens when people secede from their country: It’s called civil war. Moreover, a hell of a lot of the people in the Donbas did NOT want to secede, and those people were subjected to violence by the separatists. Such is the stuff of civil wars.
“To Russia, Ukraine is populated with Slavic people, and are therefore, more like brethren than they are enemy.”
Slavic brothers, eh? What about Russia’s POLISH Slavic “brothers,” or its CZECH Slavic “brothers?” And Russia so loved its Ukrainian Slavic brothers that it killed off about 4 million of them in the 1930s. Slavs of one stripe or another have been slaughtering each other for millennia.
“Yet, you are surrendering your country and her citizens, for what exactly, to save Ukrainians?”
Your red herring doesn’t work. I surrender nothing.
But, by your logic the US was wrong, and was surrendering in 1940 and 1941 when it sent massive amounts of supplies and materiel to Britain to fight off another bully; and when that bully turned on its bully ally on June 22, 1941, the US sent THAT bully massive amounts of supplies and materiel, because “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Though, I don’t believe countries necessarily have friends; what they do have are mutual interests.
“You’re not helping the Ukrainian people, nor are you helping America or her citizens.”
So said the American isolationists in 1940 and 1941.