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The Ukraine War is a Racket
Flopping Aces ^ | April 27, 2022 | Ron Paul

Posted on 04/28/2022 5:03:54 AM PDT by KeyLargo

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1 posted on 04/28/2022 5:03:54 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

When Democrats cut the funding to South Vietnam (after US troops had left), they doomed that country but the reasoning was that the bloodshed would stop.

Why aren’t Democrats taking the same approach to this?


2 posted on 04/28/2022 5:11:57 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

“they doomed that country but the reasoning was that the bloodshed would stop.”

And how did that work out?

(Cough…Cambodia….cough)

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3 posted on 04/28/2022 5:13:47 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: KeyLargo

Ron Paul is entitled to his opinion. This is expected from those who stick their heads in the sand to what’s going on around them, and ignores that often war is brought upon us by evil parties, and defensive action is required. Ron Paul is right about many things and wrong about others.


4 posted on 04/28/2022 5:17:07 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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5 posted on 04/28/2022 5:17:38 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Lurker

Never mind just Cambodia - the reprisals occurred in South Vietnam itself. Any idea of a peaceful resolution disappeared when the communists slaughtered so many in cities they briefly held during the Tet Offensive seven years earlier; they had lists of targets and proceeded accordingly - convincing many South Vietnamese that there would be no peace if the communists won.


6 posted on 04/28/2022 5:23:25 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: KeyLargo

The older he gets the more warped he gets.


7 posted on 04/28/2022 5:30:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: DannyTN

Keep dancing to the tune of your globalist masters like an idiot.


8 posted on 04/28/2022 5:34:47 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Magnum44
You are the ones sticking your heads in the sand, not us. In fact you are so deep into the sand that all sound arguments are ignored. You're a foolish bunch quite frankly, and then you turn around and call us Putin supporters.

Their plan to divide conservatives always works with fools. Wake up, you are being played yet again.

9 posted on 04/28/2022 5:49:40 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Meanwhile, we are incrementally being destroyed. Apparently you are just fine that this country is being destroyed by a thousand cuts, because I see no common sense coming from your side.


10 posted on 04/28/2022 5:53:40 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

The expected reply from someone who can’t make coherent argument. At least try not to sound like a conspiracy nut.


11 posted on 04/28/2022 5:53:51 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: DannyTN; KeyLargo
A most interetsing though limited list.

"Russia is a Goliath compared to Ukraine." At about 165 million to 45 million, this is true. the USA is a goliath demographically to Russia at 335 million and a demographic pipsqueak to the EU at 450 million, which is small compared to the totality of Europe at 750 million.

"It was Russia who invaded Ukraine." Indeed true. Has the US invaded any nation(s) in the last decades?

"5 million + refugees is an impressive amount of 'manipulation'." And yet so many Ukrainian refugees seem from elsewhere. One could compare and contrast the "refugees" coming across Biden's "secure" southern border.

"Russia has a history of aggression." True. Have other nations in Europe and North America shown this tendency? One recalls Clinton and NATO bombing Serbia, as one example.

"Weapon manufacturers are entitled to some profit. They make the weapons that keep us free." How free are you feeling of late in Biden's America?

Butler and Paul and KeyLargo posting the material of this thread shows a strain of thought others have also expressed.

In 1961 General and President Eisenhower said clearly, "Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

Argue with Butler? Okay. Argue with Paul? Sure. Shall we argue with Eisenhower as well?

12 posted on 04/28/2022 5:55:06 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: kearnyirish2

Where are most of the “slavic” populations in the US located?

That might give you an answer.


13 posted on 04/28/2022 5:55:32 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: WMarshal

Yup. CINO rant.


14 posted on 04/28/2022 5:56:16 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Robert DeLong

“Their plan to divide conservatives always works with fools.”

Their plan? Are you referring to the Russians & Chinese? Cuz their plan is to cause as much disruption & chaos as they can. Looks like you’re being played.


15 posted on 04/28/2022 5:56:33 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: KeyLargo

NWC vs. OWC (New World Communism vs. Old World Communism)


16 posted on 04/28/2022 6:13:37 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Appreciate and agree with your post, but why bother investing the effort in making a cogent argument when a simple two or three syllable epithet describing those with whom you disagree seems to work so well?

We’re all talking past each other at this point.


17 posted on 04/28/2022 6:17:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: kearnyirish2

Ron Paul is a racket too.


18 posted on 04/28/2022 6:31:22 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Robert DeLong
"Meanwhile, we are incrementally being destroyed. "

The challenges we face are mostly internal. If I understand your argument it breaks down as follows:


19 posted on 04/28/2022 6:41:35 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Robert DeLong

I concur. Isn’t it strange how these “FReepers” are hooting and hollering about Ukraine? I don’t remember them crying tears over Crimea, or any of the other terrible things going on right now in other countries.

They are very emotional. They make the “underdog” argument.

Heh heh. My response is always “Al Qaida was the underdog too”. Then the statist commie walks off.

Freeper World Traveler just made that point... we’ll see if they walk off.


20 posted on 04/28/2022 6:57:30 AM PDT by Sarcazmo
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