Posted on 04/27/2022 8:37:37 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
Official data published by the UK Health Security Agency confirms Covid-19 vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation has fallen to minus-90% among 70-79-year-olds, and minus 56% among 60-69-year-olds. All other age groups have also suffered a significant drop in vaccine effectiveness with figures showing all double vaccinated adults are more likely to be hospitalised with Covid-19 than unvaccinated adults.
At the turn of the year the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) decided to stop publishing the case, hospitalisation and death rates for the double vaccinated, instead choosing to only publish the rates for the triple vaccinated in their weekly Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance report.
The rates are calculated by dividing the total population size of each vaccination status group by 100,000; and then dividing the total number of cases, hospitalisations or deaths among each vaccinated group by the calculated figure.
e.g. – 3 million Double Vaccinated / 100k = 30 500,000 cases among double vaccinated / 30 = 16,666.66 cases per 100,000 population.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailyexpose.uk ...
What I find interesting and disappointing is the level of vitriol in this forum between these two schools of thought on this drug.
I am not going to do a Rodney King and say can’t we all get along. But I do think that a little more maturity is in order all the way around.
On the other hand, it is entertaining to have a forum populated by 7th graders LOL
We've been told so by the authorities. The authorities deemed the vaccines so, therefore it must be so.
The authorities wanted the vaccines for the masses, they got the vaccines for the masses. Forget all the precedents, procedures, and best practices learned the hard way over decades.
Now, take your 5th booster while we prepared to ship truckloads of your cash to our cohorts in the pharmaceutical companies to develop even "better" vaccines. Meanwhile we'll be over here pre-printing and filling out mail-in ballots for the elections.
It’s a Civil War at this point.
There’s no middle ground to be found between the fascists who want mandatory compliance and the refuseniks.
Divide and Conquer.
We’re being played IMHO.
All the numbers in the charts need to be redone.
Everytime they refer to rates per 100,000 of the population, those rates are wrong because they do not reflect proportionality relative to how much of the totall 100,000 is vaccinated and how much of a total 100,000 is not. The unvaccinated are a lower portion of any total 100,000 in any age group, because of the rates of vaccination in each age group. Because the unvacinated are fewer to begin with in any total 100,000 people in the U.K, they ought to represent lower rates in all sorts of categories, because they are fewer in number.
To reflect correct proportionality the rates should be indepedent to each category, vaccinated and unvaccinated with separate rates per 100,000 unvaccinated and per 100,000 vaccinated - not per 100,000 of the total population.
For instance, in the chart Titled “Covid-19 Hospitalizations by Vaccination Status in England - 3rd Jan to 27 March 2022”, in the very first entry, for the age group 18-29, the numbers from which the graph is drawn are 522 Unvaccinated and 580 vaccinated (1,102 total). The 522 represent 47% of the total for that age group. But in table 9 above that chart, it shows that approximately 70% of that age group is vaccinated, which means the unvaccinated only represent 30% of the age group, yet they have 47% of the hospitalizations for that age group. So, for their own cohort in that age group - the 30% unvaccinated - they have a hospitalization rate that is higher per 100,000 people than their smaller numbers would suggest.
You can do the math on the other numbers and I think most age groups will provide similar results, and those results, done correctly are different than the theme the Expose is using. The vaccinated do not represent hospitalization rates out of proportion to their portion of the total population in their age group. They represent a higher number of their age group and have larger numbers of the hospitalized, but it is not disproportionate to their vaccinated status. The unvaccinated rate, proportionate to their share of the age group, is in most cases not better than the vaccinated.
My rough look at the numbers suggest something different than the theme of the Expose, but still disturbing.
That is, I think that if the proportionality I suggest was done, the rates of hospitalization are not drastically much greater for the vaccinated, except in the oldest age groups, but instead are not radically better than the unvaccinated.
I think the truly vulnerable for severe Covid illness in any age group are similar, due to comorbidity factors, vaccinated or not. It suggests to me that comorbidity factors - obesity, diabetes, systemic heart, lung, hypertension ailments - hinder the immune sustem’s ability, even if vaccinated.
Settle in, dorkapotamus.
You ignored us all...
'Us'? Like your whole cub scout troop? Does it make you feel better to imagine you're part of some huge nerd conglomerate?
p.s. Nobody 'calls out' the Bagster OR puts him in the corner. Jot that down.
#TakeBack
And who is?
The CDC?
The FDA?
Fauxi?
The WHO?
CNN?
The (Lying) Lancet?
Some other compromised medical journal or peer review committee?
YOU?!?!?!
Wow, look at the keywords. Humblegunner is busy.
The leftists like you wish.
I don’t think it’s all from one keyword coward who doesn’t have the manhood to post his or her opinion right on the open forum.
I think some of it is from vax $hill$ like the ones posting on this thread and others who we know the names of and won’t post but just snipe.
Where are your links, cat, to “proof” your accusatory posts, that you made to metmom?
Until then....take a hike with your drive by smears, $hot $hill troll.
All good leftists assume their crimes/corruption/smears/disproven lies can simply be swept away, with a mere...oh, it’s over, now.
We see it, daily, with the MSM liars.
"That is, I think that if the proportionality I suggest was done, the rates of hospitalization are not drastically much greater for the vaccinated, except in the oldest age groups, but instead are not radically better than the unvaccinated."
Tell that to the insurance actuaries who had to re-evaluate their rates for insurance.
I believe that they had noticed a significant death rate among the working age group, and had to adjust rates, coincidental to the issuance of the Fed mandated vaccine.
"A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication."
It isn't used in diagnostics and doesn't treat or prevent anything but it might meet another definition:
"A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction."
It's also not a vaccine, regardless of what the CDC changed their definition to.
Yeah, like all the damage they did is nothing.
Well, since it didn’t happen to them, sure, why should they care? It’s easy to blow it off when you are not the one dealing with the consequences.
Yeah but they have ‘’free health care’’ in the UK , doncha’ know.
“What I find interesting and disappointing is the level of vitriol in this forum between these two schools of thought on this drug.”
We could have some level of congeniality when it was just a debate about whether the vaccine was effective or not, or what the origin of the virus was, etc. However, as soon as some decided they would advocate forcing everyone to take an experimental drug against their will, the possibility of congeniality went right out the window.
ROFLMAO
The DE is hardly 100%, but they’re track record is an order of magnitude more factual information than comes out of any one of or, for that matter, collectively, the list cited.
It’s your life lady.
Enjoy your Covid/vaccine fear Porn for many years to come, as I’m sure you will.
The rest of us will start to work on elections, enjoy the summer, and win.
#AntiVaxAddictionIsStrong
I have no fear of Covid.
I had it and I’m immune. Can’t catch it and can’t transmit it. I refuse to take an experimental, untested medicine into my body at the behest of those who hate me.
And warning people about the dangers of something they are doing is not fear porn. Your claims of Covid/vax fear porn are no different than the left’s rhetoric that because someone considers homosexuality immoral and a danger to a person’s health, that they are homophobic. Or those who object to islam’s history of terror attacks, they are islamaphobic.
You are engaging in the exact same rhetoric which puts you solidly inthe leftist camp.
Sounds like you are projecting a bit much, anyways.
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