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NATO Is Invalid And The Nations In It Deserve What They Get
The Market Ticker ^ | 4/20/2022 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 04/25/2022 5:34:42 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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1 posted on 04/25/2022 5:34:42 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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Yeah you convinced me NATO has been canceled ty so much for bringing this to our attention.


2 posted on 04/25/2022 5:36:55 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Trump was right about NATO . It should be disbanded pronto . But it won’t be .


3 posted on 04/25/2022 5:39:08 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The United States told China today that their moves on the Solomon Islands are a "red line" - half a world away.

But Russia is not allowed to have "red lines" on Ukraine joining NATO - right on Russia's doorstep.

There is no hypocrite like a neocon globalist hypocrite...

4 posted on 04/25/2022 5:40:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Williams

Have the members of NATO behaved fraudulently with regards to its terms as written?

And if so, why should said members keep pretending it’s anything more than a means for America to exert influence over Europe, and a means for Europe to let America’s military underwrite its generous social welfare programs?


5 posted on 04/25/2022 5:41:36 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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His mind can't be changed because he's blinded by his own passions.

The treaty doesn't say anything about "escalatory." It just says the parties will endeavor to act in accordance with the purpose of the UN charter, which is peace. The UN authorized "escalation" in Korea, did it not? So obviously sometimes escalation can be in accordance with the UN charter.

Following that precedent, the UN should authorize the use of force against Russia for waging aggressive war (aiming at annexation) in Europe, a crime for which men were hanged at Nuremberg.

6 posted on 04/25/2022 5:42:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Go ahead and try to change my mind.

Can't change the mind of someone who can't read. Nothing in the above articles precludes shipping arms or "proxy" wars.

7 posted on 04/25/2022 5:43:29 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

We’ll get what we take (by hearts and minds, not bullets and such.


8 posted on 04/25/2022 5:44:10 PM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: Theophilous Meatyard III

Oh hell, I forgot to close quotes. Am I supposed to close quotes before the period or after the period? Or am I a complete, hopeless humanoid.


9 posted on 04/25/2022 5:47:07 PM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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I remember this guy. He’s a flake and a conspiracy theorist. He is with the Tea Party, yet at the same time is with Occupy Wall Street; the two are polar opposites. His blog is simply a venue to hawk his and his daughter’s programs. He is what the Comanches would have called a “trickster,” who appears as one thing, but is actually another; who will seem initially to make sense, but then it’s all an act because he goes off the rails into wild conspiracies. He is the poster child for the term “useful idiot.”


10 posted on 04/25/2022 5:49:39 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Theophilous Meatyard III

Parenthesis, not quotes. This communication thing is almost impossible, even though I have been a professional communicator.


11 posted on 04/25/2022 5:50:08 PM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: kiryandil

Someday you’ll learn a very hard lesson about remembering which team you’re playing on.

I’m on the American team and all those who want to tell me America is no better than Russia or China, are not on my team.


12 posted on 04/25/2022 5:51:45 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: pierrem15
It just says the parties will endeavor to act in accordance with the purpose of the UN charter, which is peace. The UN authorized "escalation" in Korea, did it not? So obviously sometimes escalation can be in accordance with the UN charter.

That's precisely the point: what "escalation" has the UN or NATO authorized with regards to arms shipments to Ukraine? To repeat:

Therefore NATO members are obligated to stay out of non-member conflicts except with the unanimous consent of all members.

Does unanimous consent exist? Has it been established?

And has the use of force in the Russia-Ukraine been authorized in the manner called for by America's constitutional processes?

The point is that such processes haven't been followed. We're just blithely shipping arms willy-nilly, much like how France and Germany did after Russia annexed Crimea.

It all rings so hollow.

13 posted on 04/25/2022 5:52:06 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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Actually, it was Australia that said that and, yeah, they’re right next door.


14 posted on 04/25/2022 5:52:24 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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Finland, Sweden To Begin NATO Application In May: Reports
15 posted on 04/25/2022 5:55:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: kiryandil

When asked to join the sanctions against Russia, India told the US, “Friends don’t draw red lines”.


16 posted on 04/25/2022 5:56:12 PM PDT by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: Williams

You are quite the Biden guy cheerleading for the Biden globalist team. They are pure evil. You are also a sanctimonious jerk. Biden is throwing all kinds of money over there and wrecking this country. I want no part of any team you are on. Give us another “B.”


17 posted on 04/25/2022 5:57:18 PM PDT by Luke21
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Actually, it was Australia that said that and, yeah, they’re right next door.

The Australian PM spoke as though it wasn't just theirs: "Working together with our partners in New Zealand and of course the United States, I share the same red line that the United States has when it comes to these issues," Morrison said over the weekend. "We won't be having Chinese military naval bases in our region on our doorstep."

18 posted on 04/25/2022 5:57:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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His blog is simply a venue to hawk his and his daughter’s programs.

Show me you know nothing about the author without telling me you know nothing about him.

If there was ever a time where he ever 'hawked' any programs of his or his daughter's, it's been literally years. I certainly can't recall such within recent memory.

19 posted on 04/25/2022 6:00:47 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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And of course the keyword brigade appears like clockwork: 'heilputlerfanclub.' 'putinapologist.' 'putinpufferparade.'

It's all so boringly predictable.

If you want the author's own opinions on Putin, you could just read his own words: Meh. Putin is a dirtbag and I've said it for more than a decade, including on his own TV network. Just because one side of a conflict is a dirtbag does not make the other an Angel. In fact it is often true that BOTH sides are dirtbags.

20 posted on 04/25/2022 6:03:53 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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