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If U.S. Intelligence Will Lie So Easily About Anything, Why Would We Believe Them About Ukraine?
The Conservative Treehouse - The Last Refuge ^ | March 19, 2022 | Sundance

Posted on 03/19/2022 3:43:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

When we wrote about the media effort in 2018 {Go Deep}, specifically the collusion between the intelligence and national security agencies of the United States government, I asked the question, “Do we really think such a catastrophic level of corrupted journalism could reconstitute into genuine reporting of fact-based information?” The answer then, as now, is the same, NO. Indeed, it has only gotten worse in the past four years.

For the past several days, I have been highlighting a simple question on social media about something missing in the Ukraine story.

Where are the social media posts, from Ukraine citizens, that would support the narrative, as it is being told by Western media, about events happening in Ukraine?

Seemingly, Ukraine is the only conflict in modern human history where a pop culture society of more than 40 million technologically connected people decided not to document every moment of it on social media.

Considering the scale and scope of the conflict, and considering the Ukraine population of more than 40 million is far larger than Canada, and considering that population is located in a country the size of Texas, and considering they are a western technologically connected society with tens of millions of cell phones, we should be seeing a great deal of footage, pictures and images from ordinary Ukrainian citizens. However, we don’t. Why?

I’m not talking about the professional war social media accounts, and/or military-centric accounts, which, to be fair do have lots of images and footage of Russian and Ukrainian conflicts. I’m talking about the ordinary man/woman in the major population centers, who under normal circumstances would be generating tens-of-thousands of social media posts to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Telegram, YouTube, etc.

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To: Degaston

Maybe Facebook and Twitter can help with the censoring.


41 posted on 03/19/2022 4:33:32 PM PDT by Neanderthal (Let's go, Brandon!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hi.

I wonder how many Ukrainian banks have been looted?

5.56mm


42 posted on 03/19/2022 4:34:17 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Q: on the other hand...What’s your take on the analysis coming out of Russian State TV , wire services (Interfac/Novosti), Izvestiya and FSB? More credible?


43 posted on 03/19/2022 4:36:45 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (RONALD REAGAN, over any American President, GOP or Dem, reflects my political/moral values)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Some basic questions here… Who is “Sundance” i.e. what is this person’s real name and what are their credentials, ie is there some background on who posted this such as a bio?


44 posted on 03/19/2022 4:41:21 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (RONALD REAGAN, over any American President, GOP or Dem, reflects my political/moral values)
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To: Degaston

“I pray that Jim Robinson and others will clean up the insensitive apologists for the mass murderer Vladimir Putin on this website. A lot of people are dying right now because of tyranny.”

So, you don’t think Penis Piano Player has anything at all to do with the situation going on? Or that Biden, and most in DC, are not corrupt and have taken advantage of Ukraine and pushed Russia into this situation?


45 posted on 03/19/2022 4:43:58 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Degaston

Why don’t you shove your cancel culture up your disgusting intolerant wazoo!


46 posted on 03/19/2022 4:47:38 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: McGruff

So, good ol’ Soros is 100% committed to getting the USA to defend Ukraine. Funny how pointing that out never gets the folks on the “Let’s Go To War!!!” bandwagon to stop and think - even for a second. Apparently they would rather call people who disagree with them “pro-Putin freaks”, and push America into another Democrat-sponsored war...


47 posted on 03/19/2022 4:48:34 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Nifster

Seriously - does no one understand that the internet isn’t always available in all places under all conditions?


48 posted on 03/19/2022 4:51:35 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: M Kehoe
I wonder how many Ukrainian banks have been looted?

Probably all of 'em, by Russian troops, Ukrainian troops, Ukrainian politicians, Ukrainian cops, Ukrainian "businessmen", Ukrainian civilians, international volunteers, etc., etc...

49 posted on 03/19/2022 4:53:11 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Slyfox

I heard he did that. Unbelievable.

I also heard The Z man was a homo. Any truth to that?


50 posted on 03/19/2022 4:56:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Didn't "50 ranking present and former" intelligence agents swear that Hunter Biden's laptop was "Russian disinformation". LOL.

It is not even cynical anymore to say that you can't believe a single word which the "authorities" offer.

51 posted on 03/19/2022 4:57:05 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Terry L Smith

“maybe there is uno citizen journalism, because they are fighting the Russians?”

That’s just silly, all 40 million of them?
People are addicted to posting.


52 posted on 03/19/2022 5:00:23 PM PDT by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. DoktorFauxiMengeleGates to a TerreHaute gurney now)
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To: Sarcazmo
I don’t think we should believe anything they say. Not even a little bit.

That's my problem, all the wrong people support Ukraine.
53 posted on 03/19/2022 5:05:16 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: JoSixChip

Fascinating to see where the fault lines run at FR on this topic.


54 posted on 03/19/2022 5:21:31 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Mmogamer

Rubbish, I was an ardent Cold Warrior and I’m enjoying Ivan getting kicked in the nuts but the US has no business in shedding a drop of American blood in the Ukraine cesspool of corruption.

With all due respect if you still believe anything out of the US government after Iraq WMD’s, 911, Boston Bombers, Libya-Benghazi, the 2016 election Russia coups, the deep state 2020 election coup and certainly after the covid lie festival you’ve been living under a rock.


55 posted on 03/19/2022 5:24:23 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: FLT-bird

They don’t believe them. They have a Neocon agenda so they use the propaganda tools at their disposal.


56 posted on 03/19/2022 5:29:27 PM PDT by ARW
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To: FLT-bird

What is there to disbelieve about, Russia’s Army is a joke.


57 posted on 03/19/2022 5:30:44 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: cowboyusa

So, now our Putinista LiberalTarians not only are to the Left of Biden, but now they support China foreign policy...

LMAO.


58 posted on 03/19/2022 5:41:24 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Gonzalo Lira is in Ukraine and he certainly has documented what is going on there and what he’s saying much different than what our the intelligence community and media are saying, so much so the Daily Beast is set to do a hit piece on him.


59 posted on 03/19/2022 6:00:22 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: TakebackGOP

He has a good point. I find it also interesting that the internet, heat all still works in Ukraine.

Is it necessary to always smear and badmouth people because you don’t like their topic?

Mark Levin is a FOX tool now and he was a very outspoken Trump hater in the past. One thing we can say about Levin is that he has never served in the military.

See how that works?

The Last Refuge is actually on our side and not a neocon rag.


60 posted on 03/19/2022 6:10:29 PM PDT by dforest (ing )
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