War wary
Posted on 03/18/2022 8:01:37 AM PDT by shadowlands1960
Recent polling on whether or not Americans favor a no-fly zone over Ukraine has showed that citizens are in favor of the idea, but when those polled are told what the definition and implications of a no-fly zone are, support substantially wanes.
Supporters of the no-fly zone were at 40 percent of those polled, while opponents were at 25 percent. However, Yahoo! News reports, the numbers switched once respondents were told that a no-fly zone means that NATO would engage in war with Russia, shooting down their planes over Ukrainian air space.
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So it’s NOT those sticky hanging fly traps things then?
America is war weary.
You mean the public didn’t realize that it meant shooting down Russian planes that fly into the zone and that putin would retaliate as to an act of war?
No fly zone is a pointless exercise and dangerous. If you want to fight Russian forces, go in and fight them. Otherwise, don’t back into it and get a war you don’t want.
Providing supplies and maybe some advisors should be plenty.
Alright who’s the knucklehead who told them ‘what that is’?
I thought a no fly zone was like a force field or something. You just set it up some stuff and turn it on.
The Ruskies supplied North Vietnam and Korea with Migs. So what’s the difference. I think killer drones would be better. And no, I haven’t forgotten that our border is wide open and needs to be closed as a priority.
This isn’t like enforcing a no-fly zone over some sandy pesthole with Mig-19s for the opposition.
Most of the public thinks that the US won it’s independence from France in 1865.
Most Americans are still mad at the Germans for bombing Pearl Harbor.
Well, since the southern border has been wide open for years, that’s probably not as sarcastic as it looks. Just off by a couple years.
So much for that idea.
Will the powers that be take the risk of creating a false flag with chemical weapons to see if that will rally public opinion about US involvement? Or will cut their losses, let Russia have the eastern part of the country and work on an insurgency plan?
“You mean the public didnāt realize that it meant shooting down Russian planes that fly into the zone and that putin would retaliate as to an act of war?”
I’m pretty sure that liberals thought it would work like a “no guns allowed” sign, which prevents workplace shootings.
There’s a disconnect in a liberal’s brain where intentions are more important than reality and, intentions overrule reality. They are shocked when reality works out differently, but that never connects in their minds with the fact that their intentions are NOT reality.
Similarly, masks prevent covid, regardless of copious data saying they don’t. Also, vaccination shots protect you when they not only don’t, but are causing more damage than the disease.
Consider one simple āissueā of a no-fly zone over Ukraine. You are aware that Russia has SAM sites all along the border it shares with Ukraine, inside Russia. These SAM sites can cover most, if not all, of Ukraine.
To establish this no-fly zone, those SAM sites will need to be destroyed.
Consider the implications of just that portion.
If we were to go to each poll respondent with a simple 15 minute background on this crisis, they’d have no trouble supporting a no-fly-zone.
Because the US has ALREADY signed an agreement with the Ukes and the Rukes that got rid of the Uke Nukes. The Ukes honored the Budapest agreement, the Rukes have violated it twice by invading twice, and we are very busy selling the Ukes down the river.
So... the Ukes know they can’t trust us. They also know that if they had held onto those nukes, there wouldn’t have been any invasions. They also know how to handle nuke material: Chernobyl is there, and there are also 15 nuke power plants. They have the knowledge, the fissionable material, and now the motivation to develop and DEPLOY nukes because they are in an existential war.
When WE were in an existential war, we ended it by dropping 2 nukes. So who are we to scold them if they do the same thing, especially since we betrayed them?
Decades ago stupid Americans thought a 1/4 lb burger was bigger than a 1/3 lb burger. We’ve only gotten dumber.
“Most of the public thinks that the US won itās independence from France in 1865.”
In an odd way we kind of did. During the US Civil War (1861-1865) both Great Britain and the Second Empire of France passively and sometimes actively sided with the Confederacy with the intent to isolate and hamstring the growing power of the United States.
The massive military power the US developed on land and at sea during the course of the war effectively deterred European ambitions to reconquer or influence the United States so, yes, it could be viewed as a war that reaffirmed American independence.
That said, I agree with what you meant but will also concede that most Americans under the age of 40 will have no idea that the year 1865 has any significance at all.
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