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As Russian Forces Flatten Civilian Targets and Kill Noncombatants in Ukraine, Putin Snivels About the West's 'Economic Warfare', Hopes China can provide him with an economic lifeline
Red State ^ | 03/10/2022 | Streiff

Posted on 03/10/2022 6:19:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The Russian terror campaign against Ukrainian civilians continues unabated even as its military operations resemble something dreamed up by the Three Stooges. On Wednesday, the Russian Air Force bombed a maternity hospital in the besieged city of Mariupol. They claimed that a very pregnant wounded woman, who happens to be a Ukrainian beauty blogger was a “crisis actor” (Alex Jones needs to demand royalties for this) before deleting their tweet. The Russians are claiming, without a shred of evidence, that the hospital was used for military purposes, that they had notified the UN (apparently in secret) that the hospital was being improperly used, and that they were “baited” into the attack. I have doubts that the attack was deliberate. The Russians seem to have stopped using precision-guided munitions for their air attacks and rely on gravity or “dumb” bombs. The presence of Stinger MANPADS forces the survival-oriented pilot to fly higher than 10,000 feet. At that altitude and going at high speed, it is doubtful that there is a Russian pilot who could hit anything smaller than the city. (Russian pilots fly about 8 hours per month, that is barely enough to keep flight qualified.) The Russian intent appears to be something out of the Blitz of London. That is, they plan to bomb the city at random to try to terrorize the civilian population. This attack goes along with the Russians mining evacuation routes from Mariupol knowing civilians would be using them.

As these war crimes are unfolding before us, Dmitri Peskov, Kremlin spokesman and Putin Minime, sniveled about how mean the West was being to Russia. He declared that the West was waging “economic warfare” against Russia while all Russia was doing was killing women and children for the sole purpose of showing they could. He is also quoted in Interfax playing the victim:

“We have said repeatedly that Moscow was, is and will be a reliable guarantor of energy security not only for the European continent, but also at the global level. And even now, as you see, energy resources are being supplied,” Peskov told reporters, responding to a question from Interfax as to whether Russia is ready to continue supplying energy resources to countries that have supported the sanctions.

“And Russia values this reputation of a reliable supplier of energy resources. The European leaders unanimously admit that Russia is fulfilling its obligations under all current contracts continually and in full. But you see the bacchanalia, hostile bacchanalia carried out by the countries of the collective West, which, of course, makes the situation very difficult and makes us seriously ponder it,” he said.

I’d like to make two observations on his statement. I think Peskov got drunk and buggered his thesaurus (NTTAWWT) to come up with “hostile bacchanalia.” The reason that Russia is a “reliable guarantor of energy security” is because they get paid and energy exports are not subject to sanctions so it is crucial to Russia that they deliver agreed quantities of oil and gas and do so on time.

Is there an economic war underway against Russia? Not yet. Most Russian banks have not been sanctioned. Energy, food, pharmaceuticals, and medical supplies can be imported/exported without any problem. But Russia is getting an idea of what economic warfare looks like.

U.S. and European financial penalties and restrictions are throttling banks and other businesses in Russia and in Belarus, its ally, limiting the Russian government’s ability to use its enormous foreign currency reserves, and impeding millions of Russians from using their credit cards, accessing their bank deposits or traveling abroad. Foreign assets of wealthy individuals and businesses allied with the Kremlin have been frozen. The European Union on Wednesday expanded the list of directly sanctioned people and organizations to nearly 1,000.

Rating agencies have sharply downgraded the Russian government’s credit, signaling that it may be unable to pay creditors. Fitch Ratings warned on Tuesday that in its view, “default is imminent.”

Hundreds of Western businesses — manufacturers, oil companies, retailers and fast-food chains like McDonald’s — have suspended operations in Russia; Mr. Peskov said Wednesday that he hoped the number of Russians left unemployed by the exodus “would not be in the millions.” Russian lawmakers are considering nationalizing the assets of foreign companies that leave in response to the war.

How the ruble exchange rate has changed since 2000 after #Putin came to power. pic.twitter.com/Vd0Hw4kWwN

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 3, 2022

Morgan Stanley predicts that Russia could face a Venezuela-style default, possibly as soon as April 15.
“We see a default as the most likely scenario…It is unlikely to be like a normal one, with Venezuela instead perhaps the most relevant comparison.”


https://t.co/tZV7ft1gwg pic.twitter.com/pobrybMuzE

— Cliff Levy (@cliffordlevy) March 7, 2022

There are some Americans who see sanctions as “driving Russia into China’s arms.” The downside of such an event escapes me. China doesn’t need what Russia has to export and can’t get it economically as Russia’s lines of communications and transport run to Western Europe. If Putin has sand in his thong about Ukraine’s NATO membership being a threat, why would he allow Russia, with a GDP about equal to Texas, to enter into a close relationship with the #2 economy in the world?

But can China provide Putin with an economic lifeline? I’d say no, for four reasons.

First, China, despite being an economic powerhouse, isn’t in a position to supply some things Russia needs, like spare parts for Western-made airplanes and high-end semiconductor chips.

Second, while China itself isn’t joining in the sanctions, it is deeply integrated into the world economy. This means that Chinese banks and other businesses, like Western corporations, may engage in self-sanctioning — that is, they’ll be reluctant to deal with Russia for fear of a backlash from consumers and regulators in more important markets.

Third, China and Russia are very far apart geographically. Yes, they share a border. But most of Russia’s economy is west of the Urals, while most of China’s is near its east coast. Beijing is 3,500 miles from Moscow, and the only practical way to move stuff across that vast expanse is via a handful of train lines that are already overstressed.

Finally, a point I don’t think gets enough emphasis is the extreme difference in economic power between Russia and China.

Some politicians are warning about a possible “arc of autocracy” reminiscent of the World War II Axis — and given the atrocities underway, that’s not an outlandish comparison. But the partners in any such arc would be wildly unequal.

Putin may dream of restoring Soviet-era greatness, but China’s economy, which was roughly the same size as Russia’s 30 years ago, is now 10 times as large. For comparison, Germany’s gross domestic product was only two and a half times Italy’s when the original Axis was formed.

So if you try to imagine the creation of some neofascist alliance — and again, that no longer sounds like extreme language — it would be one in which Russia would be very much the junior partner, indeed very nearly a Chinese client state. Presumably that’s not what Putin, with his imperial dreams, has in mind.

The irony of this is that Russia proceeded with the invasion of Ukraine knowing that it would be the target of economic sanctions. In fact, its financial institutions took extraordinary steps to try to limit sanctions impact.

Vladimir V. Putin’s posture toward the West through the recent Ukraine crisis seems unusually defiant, even for him. But there may be more behind his confidence than military power or empty bravado.

Over the past several years, Mr. Putin, Russia’s president, has restructured his country’s economy for the specific purpose of withstanding Western financial pressure.

Russia has drastically reduced its use of dollars, and therefore Washington’s leverage. It has stockpiled enormous currency reserves, and trimmed its budgets, to keep its economy and government services going even under isolation. It has reoriented trade and sought to replace Western imports.

Russian economic officials “are pretty proud, and have good reasons to be, for the work they have done to make the Russian economy more immune to sanctions,” said Alexander Gabuev, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Moscow Center.

This transformation, among the most dramatic examples of what is known as “sanctions-proofing” worldwide, comes less than eight years after Western sanctions over Moscow’s annexation of Crimea in 2014 mired Russia in economic and political upheaval.

Russia has not yet experienced anything like an economic war. Nothing like the full range of potential sanctions and economic actions have been brought to bear and already Putin’s Russia is reeling like an aging punch-drunk fighter despite having used the last decade to prepare for the eventuality. When all this is over, one hopes Putin has learned a valuable lesson but one doubts that he’s capable of doing so.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: china; klausschwabsboy; putin; redstate; russia; schwabpuffer; sorospuffer; streiff; tedstate; ukraine
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To: kiryandil

I can see the post just fine without having a twitter account.

Apparently you have been unable to figure out how to accomplish this.

Why don’t you work on that first, and then when you have succeeded in that, then you can come explain computers to me.


81 posted on 03/10/2022 8:25:04 PM PST by Meet the New Boss (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: SeekAndFind
Red State turned into Neocons?
82 posted on 03/10/2022 8:26:57 PM PST by McGruff (A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots)
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To: Meet the New Boss; E. Pluribus Unum; Long Jon No Silver; LouieFisk
You're not bright enough to explain anything to.

I told you exactly what the problem is.

You're just not smart enough to understand my explanation, Dad.

Now run along, before your evening PuddinPop melts.

83 posted on 03/10/2022 8:27:57 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind

Correct. This should be, but won’t, a teaching moment on why the US should no longer be in NATO. The word of Ukeland are theirs and none of our own.


84 posted on 03/10/2022 8:30:21 PM PST by robowombat (Orth, all )
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To: robowombat

If I get you right you want ALL American troops out of Europe, no military support for ANY European countries and if Russia attacks any European country, to hell with them as it has absolutely nothing to do with our country’s interest?

Do you feel the same way about our troops in Asia and the Middle East?


85 posted on 03/10/2022 8:35:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: kiryandil

Go give Chuck Todd another hummer.


86 posted on 03/10/2022 8:40:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: kiryandil

“I think that people begin to believe they can read the minds of leaders”

That’s like how someone was telling me we should call Putin’s bluff re:nukes and we needed a NFZ to stop Putin because he was truly insane and would do anything to conquer the world or whatever.

I asked if he really thought it was a good idea to tick off a crazed person who has his finger on the button - I’m thinking if someone’s actually nuts he’s probably not going to act reasonably. Especially if he has nothing to lose.

Also, the Russian people are not like American people, they’ve had a rough go of it for a very long time. Making their lives more difficult will likely just piss them off, their worldview re:Russia is different than Biden’s (surprise). And according to the latest polling 70% of Russians approve of Putin (up from 60% pre-war).

Some people have the idea that the people will blame him and overthrow the government. Could be, but Americans had war-caused hardships during WW2, but didn’t come with torches and pitchforks for FDR.

Besides, even if Putin were dumped the guy that replaces him might have the instinct to push the nuke button at the slightest thing. “Devil” you know time.


87 posted on 03/10/2022 8:42:51 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Meet the New Boss

Must say suprised by your response, but welcome it. A beer summit be good for all these countries leaders


88 posted on 03/10/2022 8:43:42 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Long Jon No Silver

P.s and for Freepers lol


89 posted on 03/10/2022 8:45:11 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
That post was to the New Boss.

I just invited you along for the fun.   ROFL face

90 posted on 03/10/2022 8:47:07 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Say - did you score on the second part of Ukraine On Fire?

freeper moehoward posted the Rumble link on another thread:

Required viewing. [You've already seen this]
https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html

And part 2
https://rumble.com/vwy6pm-revealing-ukraine.html

91 posted on 03/10/2022 8:52:47 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Europe yes. China embrace s national strategy that is existentially hostile to the US has no choice but to confront them in a massive struggle and if it comes to it give them the same treatment as was meted out to Imperial Japan. In the middle east Israel is the state worth allying with due to its formidable military strength and they are in a death grapple with Iran as we are, irrespective of traitorious elements in DC say.
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92 posted on 03/10/2022 8:58:01 PM PST by robowombat (Orth, all )
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To: Meet the New Boss

“How ironic that on a website called “Free Republic” a significant part of the posters thinks Ukraine should just surrender its right to self-government in order to become a vassal state of a neo-Stalinist kleptocracy that allows its people minimal political rights.”

BRAVO! What are we up 5 former Soviet Union contries or territories that Putin the criminal thug scumbag has invaded now? The “free” thing seems to not be understood.


93 posted on 03/10/2022 9:06:02 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary

It is not our problem, it is theirs and they as they please. I don’t care one way or the other.


94 posted on 03/10/2022 9:14:30 PM PST by robowombat (Orth, all )
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To: BiglyCommentary

5? What are those 5?


95 posted on 03/10/2022 9:43:10 PM PST by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Most of what is called reporting on this ‘war’ is propaganda…on all sides.


96 posted on 03/10/2022 9:48:18 PM PST by antceecee
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To: Meet the New Boss

Realizing that America has not only been taken over but that it citizens are actively being subjugated does not mean that I am grabbing onto Putin, It means that I am not an irrational, easily-led coward.


97 posted on 03/10/2022 9:49:26 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Welcome to leftist Planet Lab Cage where are YOU are the rat)
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To: Kevmo

I find little of value in the rantings of Bidenista hacks.


98 posted on 03/10/2022 9:50:37 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Welcome to leftist Planet Lab Cage where are YOU are the rat)
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To: Kevmo

Georgia, Chetnia, Crimea, Ukraine, ???


99 posted on 03/10/2022 9:55:46 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary

Crimea is in Ukraine.

Chechnya? I’ll need to read up...


100 posted on 03/10/2022 10:10:44 PM PST by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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