Posted on 01/20/2022 11:27:31 AM PST by JV3MRC
The final part of his rant was, “I won’t have to because I’m a Mexican.” He said this right in the middle of our work place.
R134 is the new antichrist it has a global heating potential 1400 times that of co2 so it has been banned worldwide along with R410 the USA is eliminating it’s manufacture effective 2025 and has already mandated a ramp down in its production here. My new freezers both use R600 and are currently both at minus 14F happy as clams. R600 is N-Butane for those that don’t know the R codes. The amounts in the sealed electric compressors is less than 300 grams not enough to blow anything up even if you purposely cut the coils it would just spray out and dissipate in the Air to a nonflamable concentration. Much to do about nothing.
Dichlorodifluoromethane and all others in its class of chlorine compounds were eliminated in the world R12 being the one most people are familiar with. It was replaced with chlorine free R134 due to Dichlorodifluoromethane nasty habit of floating into the sky where UV light broke its chemical chains releasing the chlorine molecules which have a habit of binding to ozone or O3 gas forming chlorine dioxide itself a nasty substance but more importantly by consuming ozone it removed it from the stratosphere letting more in to the surface this us and for plants and people. The world is a much better place for the banning of the chlorocarbons.
Far worse than that, air conditioning made Washington DC inhabitable year-round leading to all of our nation’s woes.
Back to the dark ages with a global population of 500 million.
I wonder if the people that believe that would be willing to give up their fridge, air conditioner, car, jets, etc to show us the way. In about 300 years, we can review the data and see if we still say no to these idiotic ideas.
Just use CARBON fiber discs to...oh wait, never mind.
And heating which makes the temperate zones habitable in winter
Every single one of these clowns should be forced to live like they propose. No phones, no lights, no motor cars, not a single luxury. At least then we would never hear from them again.
The mass of a mole of Dichlorodifluoromethane is 120.91gm.
The (average) mass of a mole of dry air is is 28.97 gm.
One mole of gas occupies exactly the same volume, 22.4 liters, regardless of the composition of the gas molecules.
Bit hard to see how it can have the "habit of floating into the sky," since its density is more than four times that of air.
In the city I live near, four men died back in the 1980s at a company that makes refrigeration equipment. Two were down in a slitter machine pit. Someone vented some R-12 fifty or sixty feet from where they were working. The gas flowed into the pit, knocking out both men. Another worker looked down, saw they were unconscious, called a supervisor, and went down to rescue them. He lost consciousness too.
When the supervisor arrived, saw the three of them lying on the floor at the bottom of the pit, he immediately hit an alarm and climbed down to help them. He also lost consciousness, in a few seconds.
By the time a qualified rescue team could get to the scene, all four were deceased.
liberals are mental and evil- dangerous combo- they want to attack EVERYTHING that makes life enjoyable because they can’t stand OTHER people living a life that is convenient and pleasant-
Liberals are regressives. They won’t stop until we are dead or living in caves and eating rocks and twigs.
Take it easy Francis no one is going to give up AC or freezers. HFC are already banned and the phase out has begun as with any transition there is going to be alternatives in this case R600,R290,R744,R152,R1234y just to name the ones off the top of my head that all have GWP under the limits of the treaty which the USA has not even sent to the Senate yet but the EPA is abiding by it in force.
R600 is presently keeping my game freezer at -15 and my second garage freezer minus 14 no big deal and with a GWP of zero R600 is perfectly legal and cheap too. Most new cars after 2020 in the US use R1234y already the price is coming down now that mass production is ramping up for it at one point it was $120 lb it’s half that today and given it’s more efficient in the cars AC there is less of it in the system. It runs at a different pressure curve than R134a so back fitting the old stuff won’t work in a new car. R1234yf is here to stay.
Density has little to do with mass movement of dilute gases in the environment are you really going to try to argue over a proven scientific fact that Dichlorodifluoromethane depletes the ozone layer really? There is literally hundreds of studies , satellite spectral data and directly atmospheric sampling at altitude with U2 aircraft from NASA to prove it. You are wrong flat out wrong and that’s the end of it Google scholar and an afternoon of reading comprehension is where you need to be.
Silly. Go back and take high school chemistry again.
“Density has little to do with mass movement of dilute gases in the environment...”
So what atmospheric process do you propose is powerful enough to offset both gravity and buoyancy?
“Do away with refrigerators and we’re back to 1755.”
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You don’t have to go back that far. I lived in a development in upstate Pa. called the Ice Lakes. They were artificial lakes created to supply ice to Philadelphia and New York in the mid 1800’s. Those lakes don’t freeze anymore either, which is one of the main points of the article.
I don’t think there’s any doubt that the climate has warmed, but there is a great deal of doubt as its being a catastrophe.
Has he given up his?
I think we all know the answer to that.
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