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Vaccines don’t stop Covid hospitalizations or deaths. They never have, even at peak effectiveness. A huge US database offers proof
Unreported Truths (substack) ^ | 12/29/2021 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 12/29/2021 12:02:45 PM PST by Mount Athos

Even at the peak of their protection earlier in 2021, Covid vaccines barely reduced the risk of hospitalizations in vaccinated people who had “breakthrough” infections, new data show.

Vaccinated people in a study published Tuesday had a nearly 1 in 200 chance of of requiring hospitalization for Covid in the first six months after being “fully vaccinated.”

That stunning risk came even though the median age of people in the study was only 51, and most were relatively healthy.

Deaths, ventilator use, and other severe outcomes also occurred regularly in vaccinated people. The data comes from a study of about 600,000 vaccinated Americans seen at over 100 academic medical centers.

The study was published online Dec. 28 in the Journal of the American Medical Association - JAMA Internal Medicine.

The data in the study also make clear how quickly vaccine protection fades after the second dose - and that the Centers for Disease Control hugely understated the number of vaccinated people hospitalized for Covid earlier this year.

Of the 600,000 fully vaccinated people, about 2,800 required inpatient hospitalization for Covid in the first six months after “full vaccination.” That period starts 14 days after the second dose of mRNA vaccines, when vaccine protection should be at peak.

Almost 3 percent of fully vaccinated people, or 1 in 35, were infected over the first six months, with infection rates accelerating sharply at the end of the study.

In all, 148 of the 600,000 vaccinated people had what the study’s authors called “serious” outcomes from Covid, including ventilation or death, in the first six months after full vaccination.

The study does not reveal how many people were infected or hospitalized for Covid after the first dose or less than two weeks after the second, when rates of infection, hospitalization, and death are known to be even higher.

The stunning figures are buried in a supplemental table of the study, which focused on the post-vaccination risk to a small group of people who have serious immune complications. The paper’s researchers compared infection, hospitalization, and death rates in about 35,000 immune-compromised people with about 570,000 who did not.

Somewhat surprisingly, the researchers found immune-compromised people had only a slight extra risk of SARS-Cov-2 infection, though they had about three times the risk of dying from Covid as people without immune disorders.

But by far the most interesting figures in the study are contained in a single small table in an appendix.

It compares the outcomes of the roughly 18,000 vaccinated and infected people seem at the medical centers with a much larger group of Covid patients - about 2.5 million people - who were not vaccinated and visited the same centers at any point during the epidemic.

About 84 percent of the vaccinated patients were seen as outpatients, while 16 percent required hospitalization.

In comparison, about 77 percent of unvaccinated patients were seen as outpatients, while 23 percent were hospitalized.

Almost 1 percent of the vaccinated patients had serious outcomes, including death, compared to just over 2 percent of the unvaccinated patients.

The study contained no information about post-vaccine side effects.

The findings run contrary to the endlessly repeated promises of Covid vaccine advocates that even if vaccines fail to prevent infection, they are necessary to keep hospitals from being overrun. They also help bring American hospitalization data - which is both fragmented and hopelessly politicized in a desperate effort to prove vaccine efficacy - more in line with figures from the United Kingdom and other countries.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: antivaxnutjobs; antivaxxcult; antivaxxerlies; believeanything; covaxmortality; dumbingdownfr; embarrassing; fakenewssource; ifitsontheinternet; itmustbetrue; lyinggarbage; qtardsallthewaydown; stopthisnonsense; stupidity; vaccines
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1 posted on 12/29/2021 12:02:45 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

SOURCE: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2787643?guestAccessKey=356d5298-a97b-47ea-8db3-99dc9e039a6e&utm_source=silverchair&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jamainternalmedicine&utm_content=olf&utm_term=122821


2 posted on 12/29/2021 12:02:53 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Biggest psyop in history.

Folks aint gonna want to believe they were fooled this bad.


3 posted on 12/29/2021 12:03:58 PM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: Mount Athos

less cluttered link for source:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2787643


4 posted on 12/29/2021 12:05:08 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

I have a family member, fully vaccinated and no underlying condition on a ventilator right now. The vaccination did absolutely nothing and the risk of taking it far outweighs the reward. Wake up people, you have been played.


5 posted on 12/29/2021 12:07:25 PM PST by RBW in PA
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To: Mount Athos

You can push all your studies from quackery anti vaxx sites all you want but stats are stats.

Texas unvaccinated deaths rates 20:1 over vaccinated.

https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx


6 posted on 12/29/2021 12:09:31 PM PST by setter
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To: Delta 21
Folks aint gonna want to believe they were fooled this bad.

Yup. And I think it's a two stage realization --

1) The vaccines that so many were forced to take were useless. Completely useless. More useless than anyone was willing to admit.

2) The vaccines have side effects. Bad side effects. Worse side effects than anyone was willing to admit.

7 posted on 12/29/2021 12:09:48 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Mass hypnosis of society. So many people are blind to the Truth which is in front of them.)
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To: Mount Athos
...148 of the 600,000 vaccinated people had what the study’s authors called “serious” outcomes from Covid, including ventilation or death, in the first six months after full vaccination.

That's 247 per million. Pretty good odds, actually.

Now, if only they tell us the health status and ages of those 148 people who had serious outcomes:
• How many were older than 60?
• Did they all have high BP and/or diabetes?
• How many were obese?
• How many died versus recovered?

I swear, I've yet to find a single study that tells the complete story.

8 posted on 12/29/2021 12:10:22 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: Delta 21
"Biggest psyop in history. Folks aint gonna want to believe they were fooled this bad."

It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.

9 posted on 12/29/2021 12:10:22 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: RBW in PA

“The vaccination did absolutely nothing and the risk of taking it far outweighs the reward.”

Sorry you have a family member in a bad way. But you really cannot extrapolate from a sample of 1 to the population of those vaccinated.


10 posted on 12/29/2021 12:11:52 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Bringing facts, truth, and common sense into a thread like this is like someone loudly breaking wind during an opera.


11 posted on 12/29/2021 12:13:43 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Mount Athos
Of the 600,000 fully vaccinated people, about 2,800 required inpatient hospitalization for Covid in the first six months after “full vaccination.”

...Almost 3 percent of fully vaccinated people, or 1 in 35, were infected over the first six months...

Alex says more vaccinated people were hospitalized for Covid than were infected.

Alex doesn't understand what he's looking at.

12 posted on 12/29/2021 12:14:11 PM PST by semimojo
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To: precisionshootist

“Biggest psyop in history. Folks aint gonna want to believe they were fooled this bad.”


It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.


And don’t bother with people who have already been jabbed. No matter what info you go at them with, almost impossible to convince them. Oh well..............Not my problem anymore.


13 posted on 12/29/2021 12:15:28 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: RBW in PA

Months ago when the Israeli data was touted as showing how the vax reduces serious risk from covid-19, the risk reduction was reported in the total aggregate — lumping all age cohorts together.

Digging into the data showed it only made a material difference for seniors 65+. And only made a big difference for 75+.

Turtles all the way down.


14 posted on 12/29/2021 12:15:53 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: Mount Athos

First off....they’re NOT “vaccines”.


15 posted on 12/29/2021 12:17:42 PM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: hillarys cankles

Every day brings something I read or hear that reaffirms my decision to refuse to get one of these little tested experimental treatments was the absolute right one.....and today is no different.


16 posted on 12/29/2021 12:19:46 PM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: semimojo

So what you are telling us is that you think 2800 is a larger number than 18,000.

You are dismissing the article because of your own big math error


17 posted on 12/29/2021 12:21:29 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos
Every vaccinated infected person that I see is repeating the same Fauci mantra.

"It would have been worse if I wasn't vaccinated".

SMH

18 posted on 12/29/2021 12:22:38 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: setter

Look at their definition of “Un-Vaxed” for a clue as to why that may be so,
slowbie...


19 posted on 12/29/2021 12:24:00 PM PST by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see.#KAG )
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To: setter
"Texas unvaccinated deaths rates 20:1 over vaccinated. https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx"

This is the quackery. There is huge money in making up lies about vaccine effectiveness. You put a lot of faith in government which is good because we know they never lie /s.

There is no money in the truth about the vaccines. They don't work and they are destroying natural immunity to everything and killing people.

20 posted on 12/29/2021 12:24:19 PM PST by precisionshootist
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