Posted on 11/20/2021 11:29:38 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Unlike the United States, the European Union is very transparent about the number of adverse effects and fatalities from people who were vaccinated and the numbers are staggering. According to their reports through November 13th, they had 30,551 fatalities and 1,163,356 people who had adverse reactions to the vaccines. The European Union had 448 million people in 2020 compared to 331 million in the United States. You do the math on this.
According to European Medicines Agency, an official site for the European Union, the data for the report came from ADRreports.eu portal that allows users to keep track of the latest vaccine adverse effects. All of the data on the website comes from EudraVigilance that gathers it’s information from regulatory agencies and from pharmaceutical companies that hold the licenses for the vaccines. They do not report the same in the United States and the CDC does not want to make the reports on the J & J vaccine until 2076.
What are they hiding?
In what universe is this acceptable?
In the present one, I’m afraid. Pretty bad huh?
>7.5 BILLION doses have been given around the world. If what you say is true, you'll be by yourself pretty soon.
Getting a vax LOWERS your chances of dying from COVID. That is a FACT. For younger people, their chances of dying are already so low, the additional protection from the vax can't really be considered significant. For older people, or people with complicating medical issues, the improved protection from the Vax can be VERY significant.
People should consult with their own doctors and make the choice that is best for themselves.
NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.
That looks like a fairly important point.
If you want to try to argue that deaths didn't increase, significantly, in the US and around the world in 2020 and 2021, I think our conversation is done.
You say that is a fact....except x,y, and z.
Show the evidence it has made any difference at all. Everybody I know who has been jabbed has come down with covid.
We are now seeing excessive deaths in the highest vaxed countries, how does that happen if what you say is true?
Gee... well, it's pretty hard to argue with THAT logic.
We are now seeing excessive deaths in the highest vaxed countries
Sorry... but that is simply NOT true. Don't believe some random, 3 page, BS post on FR. Educate yourself.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
Never one to shrink from a challenge, I'll take a stab at it:
How many people do you know who got the jab DIED from Covid?
i judge people by their actions, not their words...
our federal government’s and politician’s actions and double standards prove the kung flu is a scam...
some of our citizens fell for the fear and are being played...
Did I say die, I said came down with it even though they had the vax. I only knonw two who died from the virus although I know five who died from the vax.
What proof do you have the vax works.
Never mind. The WHOLE DAMN WORLD is lying to you.
Vaxxes are pure death and 75% of the global population is going to die, soon.
Sheesh. Some people just cannot be reached. :-(
Translation: I have no proof but he is crazy to question the vax’s effectiveness.
dude... the proof is EVERYWHERE. Have you ever read a report? or looked at data? Here’s a couple of good places to start.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/kentucky
Compare the death rates before and after vax rollout.
The translation is: I got no time for fools.
You call that evidence? Check the latest reports on Israel and Britain and they percent of vax covid cases and deaths. Coarse your mind is made up so why waste time.
I’ve been tracking UK and Israel data for at least 10 months now.
I PROMISE you... you don’t know more about the global data than I do.
I have a group of 8 people who have been studying this for 18 mos. I doubt your last statement.
Lol. Everyone has been studying this for more than 18 months. Not many gave focused on the UK and Israel until they became the first to start vaccinating everyone.
I stand by my claim, based on your display of ignorance.
Just today, I heard Dr. Scott Atlas, Trump’s best advisor, repeating exactly the claims I’ve made. I’m on solid ground.
Not our group, we have a nurse with a BA who ran the CDC lab and a micro-biologist. What have you got? Some CDC propaganda?
I got enough intelligence to understand data.
Look... being an A-Hole is not my preferred style.
I like truth, and that is HARDER to find today than ever.
I share MOST of the doubts about Covid, and the vaccines in particular, that many on FR have.
I HAVE looked at LOT of data. I can’t 100% vouch for the accuracy of ANY of it. I’ve seen a ton of PURE CRAP, passed off as “scientific studies” in the past 2 years. I get angry when I keep seeing misleading, or outright FALSE data posted here, on FB.
Based on what I’ve seen, here is my PERSONAL opinion:
- Natural Immuntity is FAR BETTER than vaccine protection
- no healthy person under the age of 50 needs to take a vaccine, unless they just WANT to.
- No person under the age of 30 should even be THINKING about a vaccine unless they have SEVERE complicating medical issues.... things like, gross obesity, SEVERE Asthma, diabetes.... etc.
- For people at elevated risk (Those not mentioned above) the risk of the vaccines are FAR lower than the risk from Covid... if you’ve never had it.
I 100% oppose government mandates for vaccines, for masking (which is especially STUPID), and lockdowns. If private companies want to apply these mandates? Ok.. but, I’ll remember who they are and give my business to others, where I can.
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