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How Many Times Are We Going to Let the FBI and DOJ Break the Law?
Red State ^ | 11/17/2021 | Scott Hounsell

Posted on 11/17/2021 8:20:55 PM PST by SeekAndFind

It seems I can’t keep up with the latest DOJ or FBI scandal as of late. In the last two weeks, I have penned two pieces at RedState, voicing my displeasure with their continued political targeting and questionable tactics.

While some missed my sarcasm regarding the “J. Edgar glory days,” the problems at the FBI and DOJ, along with other federal law enforcement organizations (I’m looking at you, ATF), are nothing new. While this author is going to stop far short of suggesting that the likes of McVeigh and Nichols had justification to do what they did, one can certainly step back and look at the actions taken at Ruby Ridge and Waco, and question whether or not any government should have the power to take that sort of action against their own citizens.

One can still be as disgusted by the action of domestic terrorists with a Ryder truck, as we are by domestic terrorists with blue jackets with bold yellow lettering. Look at what the FBI did to Richard Jewell, in the wake of the Centennial Park Bombing, despite having zero evidence of any wrongdoing. In fact, the entirety of what linked Jewell to the bombing was geographic proximity and a single FBI profiler’s opinion. That’s it.

We found out from the 9/11 Commission Report that the FBI was responsible for some of the breakdown in communication that could have potentially helped to stop several of the hijackers leading up to the attacks. Remember, Zacarias Moussaoui, sometimes referred to as the 20th hijacker was picked up by the FBI in August 2001, but was not linked to the other hijackers until after the 9/11 attacks.

Yet it doesn’t stop there. The FBI had contacted and/or investigated the Tsarnaev Brothers — perpetrators of the Boston Bombing in 2013, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik — perpetrators of the San Bernardino Shooting in 2015, and Omar Mateen — perpetrator of the Pulse Nightclub shooting in 2016, all before any of those crimes were committed.

Even after crimes are committed, the FBI (and by extension, the DOJ) seem completely incapable of securing evidence of a motive or how the perpetrators had committed the crimes. In the case of Stephen Paddock, the entirety of our domestic federal law enforcement power couldn’t figure out how a guy, or better yet, why a guy, got an armory into a tower room at the Mandalay Bay, and murdered and injured hundreds.

Yet every one of these failures, these… clinics of incompetence, were used to justify increased power to the FBI. The argument went something like, “well, we failed because we didn’t have enough access, or we couldn’t do a certain thing that would have helped us to prevent those situations.” Close-door meetings with the White House or Members of Congress likely started with questions of how to prevent those attacks from ever occurring again. The answers to those questions? More power to the FBI and DOJ.

With the recent arrest of Steve Bannon by the DOJ, on Contempt of Congress charges, I again question why any law enforcement agency needs this power. What is Bannon’s crime? Bannon ignored requests from Congressional Investigators into the January 6th riots. Bannon did nothing but tell these Congressional Investigators, who mind you have proven very recently to have used fraudulent information from the FBI and DOJ to conduct illegal investigations into the Trump Administration, to pound sand. When was the last time someone was arrested by the DOJ for Contempt of Congress? I was unable to identify that time. Remember Lois Lerner, architect of the IRS Scandal that targeted Conservative Groups? She was held in Contempt of Congress; however, the DOJ chose not to prosecute her.

Yet, when it comes to protecting government abuse of power, the very agency tasked with preventing it is, by the very nature of its existence, an abuse of power. Who is in charge of investigating the shady actions of Members of Congress? Who is in charge of appropriations for the DOJ? And thus, the Corruption Tango continues.

During the Trump Administration, Bill Barr was held in Contempt of Congress, but as the Attorney General of the United States, would have been tasked with his own prosecution for such crime. The left, I am sure, had a problem with that, but what was Barr held in Contempt for specifically? His refusal to comply with a subpoena from Congress. He didn’t lie. He didn’t send them false information or alter documents. He simply said, no, I refuse to participate in your sham of an investigation, which mind you, was motivated by the same people who had used fraudulent information provided to them by the FBI and DOJ to conduct other, potentially illegal investigations.

When Attorney General Merrick Garland lied before Congress about tactics and targets the FBI was using to investigate “domestic terrorists,” (see: PTA, Parents against rape in school bathrooms) this carries with it a specific intent to mislead. When NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci lied to a Senate Committee saying that gain-of-function research never took place at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, that again, contained an intent to mislead. The FBI leaked privileged information to the New York Times.

Yet, when we discuss the issues with Barr and Bannon, the left interprets silence and refusal to participate in Kangaroo Courts as an intent to mislead. That’s just not true. Congressional hearings often are just that…Kangaroo courts… which don’t have any power to request the information they do, nor enforce those requests. Bannon’s arrest was just more theatrics from the same house of political theatre. Garland, who lied to Congress, is in charge of determining whether or not to prosecute himself, decided to prosecute Bannon simply because Bannon refused to participate in a sham investigation?

The targeting that has been seen from the DOJ is against the law. The withholding of exculpatory evidence also is against the law. So is lying to Congress. At which point are we going to say enough is enough? And more importantly, how? How do we stop them from doing this?

This is why 2022 is so important as is 2024. This needs to be the point stuck under the nose of every undecided voter while answering the following: Is this the government you want? s this the government you deserve? We need to make wholesale corruption that has been occurring in our government, as well as the oft rewarded incompetence of other government entities, the outrage point.

Enough about Republicans vs Democrats, and the Right vs. the Left. It is us, the people, vs. them, the government. We need our leaders to fear what will happen if they abuse our trust and lie to us about it, more than they do those others in government to whom they might have to stand up. The only way we get them to respect their offices and the sacred trust we have extended them is to make the punishment of the violation of such so much worse than anything they stand to gain by engaging in questionable actions in the first place.

We need strong leaders who will call out the corruption and then refuse to move on anything until that corruption is fully investigated by an independent party and the involved parties prosecuted to the furthest extent of the law.

Let’s start there, but as our Forefathers taught us, no option is off the table.



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: bananarepublic; corruption; doj; donutwatch; fbi; freespeech; lawbreaking; policestate
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1 posted on 11/17/2021 8:20:55 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Makes me think of Al Gore saying “No controlling legal authority”...


2 posted on 11/17/2021 8:28:03 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: SeekAndFind

TBH, it will go on forever because there’s no way that 50%+1 of the House and Senate would be willing to pass legislation to do what needs to be done to defang them. (The DOJ/Fibbies likely have kompromat on literally every member that would magically leak to all the news if anybody even whispered such a thing)

Sorry, but that’s just the way it is.


3 posted on 11/17/2021 8:36:16 PM PST by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, we had a President who was trying to clean up the mess at the DOJ. But the douche nozzles at Red State didn’t like him.

Mean tweets or something like that.

L


4 posted on 11/17/2021 8:39:07 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The FBI budget is supposedly around 9 billion with 35,000 or so employees they deign to admit having. Can’t really see anything happening to it at this point. That’s a 9 billion dollar dug in tick that knows a bunch of dirty laundry with lots of folks willing to go to the mat to keep it dug in and sucking. It was probably too late 50+ years ago to do anything about any of the alphabet agencies, which basically function as guardians of the bureaucratic establishment empire in DC in order to keep themselves fed.

It’s hard for me to picture any modern politician getting rid of any alphabet agency or even reducing their budgets in the era of the 24 news cycle.

Freegards


5 posted on 11/17/2021 8:39:17 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: SeekAndFind

The DOJ and FBI need a Roman-style decimation.


6 posted on 11/17/2021 8:56:57 PM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind
Who is "we", Kemosabe ?

We HAD the man that could make and enforce changes.

We'll just have to be patient.

7 posted on 11/17/2021 9:01:45 PM PST by knarf (?<p>Little kids grow up to be adults that get into powerful positions and act out their thoughts.<pg)
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To: SeekAndFind

The secret to the FBI’s success is, like Hoover,they have dirt or are capable of creating dirt on anyone who threatens them.


8 posted on 11/17/2021 9:21:09 PM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: knarf; SeekAndFind

I agree with knarf. What is a guy like me supposed to do? Does he expect people to storm the capitol or something? Does he expect us to throw bricks through store windows? I suppose he thinks he is “doing something” with this writing.


9 posted on 11/17/2021 9:24:10 PM PST by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: SeekAndFind
All those damn hippies that good ol Joe Friday arrested back in the day came home to roost.
They had lousy offspring and then all of their grandchildren became ‘Aunt Teefa Special Agent FBI’.
10 posted on 11/17/2021 9:36:47 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: SeekAndFind

They are the law.


11 posted on 11/17/2021 9:53:52 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the people your supposed to report the crimes to are the criminals you are well and truly F’d.

The first time I became aware of this on a large scale was when it was revealed how Clinton used the state police to intimidate and procure women that he selected while Attorney General and then Governor of Arkansas. He carried those procedures with him to D.C.


12 posted on 11/17/2021 9:58:17 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: SeekAndFind
All we can do at this point is passive-aggressive resistance.

If you see something, say nothing.

Don't talk to the authorities. Don't snitch to the authorities. Report nothing to the authorities. The authorities are not your friend.

That's how it is in Third World banana republics. That's how it was in East European Communism.

It's sad we've sunk to this level. But this too will pass. Over time, the FBI, the police, the government, will lose all legitimacy and respect. They will be viewed with the same contempt and quiet hatred as were the East European Communist regimes.

Eventually, there will be a spark. Maybe in another generation. Maybe in two or three generations. A small incident that will explode into a popular rebellion, and the whole regime will come tumbling down within a few weeks.

13 posted on 11/17/2021 10:47:16 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: SeekAndFind

As many times as they want.

We will do nothing.


14 posted on 11/17/2021 11:01:45 PM PST by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As many times as they want.

We will do nothing.


15 posted on 11/17/2021 11:02:31 PM PST by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


16 posted on 11/17/2021 11:24:36 PM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: SeekAndFind

Disband cia fbi etc..cannot be trusted.


17 posted on 11/18/2021 1:53:09 AM PST by aces (and )
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To: PGR88

France has it right, in the French revolution


18 posted on 11/18/2021 1:55:54 AM PST by aces (and )
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To: Angelino97

bttt

I agree, the “system” of oversight and funding will not correct. The government is in cahoots, and Congress is not willing to do the dirty work it is supposed to do. Of course the agencies will run amok, and of course there will be an occassional stern letter and blockbuster report. The Church Committee exposed snooping abuses and worse - those abuses persist, and the Senate created a permanent select committe to insure that future abuses would be buried.

It is proper that there be tension between the people and the government. That is natural order. The government is like fire, and right now it is unchecked and causing ruin.

We are a banana republic.


19 posted on 11/18/2021 2:07:24 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind

I am sure that the Chinese under Mao, the Cambodians under Pol Pot, the Germans under Hitler and the Russians and East Germans asked the same thing, but too late.

Perhaps we are asking early enough. The question is: has our FBI gone full Stasi yet?


20 posted on 11/18/2021 3:22:04 AM PST by OpusatFR (TimetoRexissoon)
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