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Joe Manchin Signals He's About to Kill Joe Biden's Entire Agenda
Red State ^ | 11/01/2021 | Bonchie

Posted on 11/01/2021 8:17:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

With everything going on in Virginia between Terry McAuliffe and Glenn Youngkin, the battle over Joe Biden’s agenda had taken a backseat in the news, but that may have changed in a big way today.

Late last week, a vote to push through the bipartisan infrastructure bill was scuttled after progressives refused to vote for it without more than a framework on the “Build Back Better” boondoggle. That was the second time in a month Nancy Pelosi had to pull the plug at the last minute. Yet, by Saturday, Democrats were projecting confidence again. Word was that both bills would be voted on as soon as Tuesday.

But then Joe Manchin came busting in the room like the Kool-Aid man today.

And Manchin basically guarantees BIF won't pass anytime soon with this: "I will not support a bill that is this consequential, without thoroughly understanding the impact…"

— Rick Klein (@rickklein) November 1, 2021

That second tweet should actually read “BBB,” which stands for “Build Back Better.” What Manchin is doing here is hitting the brakes on the progressive bill completely because it contains a variety of ridiculous budget gimmicks where programs are only funded for a few years while claiming they are “paid for.”

Here are some of the choice quotes via National Review.

Manchin reiterated his concerns about “exploding inflation,” the debt, the potential for rising interest rates, and the creation of new social spending programs. “How can I in good conscience vote for a bill that proposes massive expansions of social programs when vital programs like Social Security and Medicare face insolvency and benefits could start being reduced as soon as 2026 in Medicare and 2033 in Social Security?” he asked rhetorically. “How does that make sense? I don’t think it does.”…

…But then Manchin took things a step further.

He said, “As more of the real details outlined in the basic framework are released, what I see are shell games — budget gimmicks that make the real cost of the so-called $1.75 trillion bill estimated to be almost twice that amount if the full time is run out. If you extended it permanently. And that we haven’t even spoken about.”

Well, that escalated quickly.

While Democrats were optimistic earlier today, this represents a major gut-punch to their hopes and dreams. If Manchin isn’t on board with the sleight of hand they plan to do with the reconciliation bill, he’s essentially dooming Biden’s agenda to failure because there is no world in which that bill is actually paid for in a responsible way.

Instead, what Democrats had hoped to do was fund their entitlement programs for a limited number of years while the CBO scored the bill over a ten-year period. The game being played there is to get Americans used to the free stuff so that Congress is forced to extend the programs down the road. And just like with the re-upping of Obamacare subsidies we’ve seen in the past, “paying for it” would no longer even be a discussion once the public is fully invested. It’s a cynical game and Manchin seems to be announcing that he’s not down to play.

Is the West Virginia senator looking for an escape hatch here? It kind of feels like it. He’s strung these negotiations out for months, and after the progressives finally bent the knee, he’s kicking them in the face again. Perhaps he wants to see how tomorrow’s election goes? Or maybe he sees the writing on the wall back home? Whatever it is, the White House has to be furious. Where do they go from here if Manchin won’t accept their budget gimmicks? The answer is nowhere.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: arizona; bidenagenda; joemanchin; krystensinema; senate; spending; westvirginia

1 posted on 11/01/2021 8:17:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

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Excuse me for being skeptical. It was Manchin’s vote that advanced this Bill in the first place.

Seems odd to advance it and put all that pressure on himself.

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2 posted on 11/01/2021 8:20:36 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: AnthonySoprano

I am skeptical as well. I think this is all Kabuki.


3 posted on 11/01/2021 8:22:02 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s more conservative than Romney.


4 posted on 11/01/2021 8:23:30 PM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: The people have spoken
"He’s more conservative than Romney."

Which begs the question... which two squishy RINO senators will take up Manhin and Sinema's slack?

5 posted on 11/01/2021 8:29:43 PM PDT by LIConFem (Read up on Russia's Oct, 1917 Revolution... And prepare.)
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To: AnthonySoprano

the republic hangs by a manchin thread. beyond scary


6 posted on 11/01/2021 8:30:10 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Manchin and these Assistant Democrats

Dan Sullivan (R-AK) Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) Mike Crapo (R-ID) Roy Blunt (R-MO) Richard Burr (R-NC) Deb Fischer (R-NE) Lindsey Graham (R-SC) Rob Portman (R-OH) Thom Tillis (R-NC) Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) Jim Risch (R-ID) Chuck Grassley (R-IA) Bill Cassidy (R-LA) Kevin Cramer (R-ND) Roger Wicker (R-MS) Mitch McConnell (R-KY) John Hoeven (R-ND) Susan Collins (R-ME) Mitt Romney (R-UT)


7 posted on 11/01/2021 8:38:37 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Listen to the end.

INTELLIGENCE BRIEFING WITH ROBIN AND STEVE - EPISODE 25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYBClDGp7Ec&t=1772s


8 posted on 11/01/2021 8:43:11 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: AnthonySoprano

Advance it to see what the hell “shell game” they’re playing. The Dems must be fuming over Manchin.....except Manchin is fuming over what’s going on.


9 posted on 11/01/2021 8:47:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: AnthonySoprano

He is working for the highest payoff he can get.


10 posted on 11/01/2021 9:31:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe wants more stuff. Byrd would have bought home the bacon.


11 posted on 11/01/2021 10:31:04 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


12 posted on 11/01/2021 11:04:15 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: AnthonySoprano
Excuse me for being skeptical. It was Manchin’s vote that advanced this Bill in the first place.

This is Manchin's M.O. He always makes noises like he is not sure he can vote for something. He always votes for it anyway.

13 posted on 11/01/2021 11:38:02 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not so sure. He can see Bidet’s numbers plummeting too. If McAwful goes down tomorrow, he may well just say no to preserve his options for the future.


14 posted on 11/01/2021 11:42:18 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SeekAndFind
If Youngkin does get enough votes downstate to overcome the 100% vote fraud in the DC suburban counties then Manchin will stand firm. If McAuliffe "wins" with more than a few % then Manchin will switch to the communist side.

I would bet, though, that Fairfax will produce more votes for Mc. than there are voters in Fairfax and they will all be accepted as all votes must be counted, no matter the validity.

16 posted on 11/02/2021 7:59:47 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe g)
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