Such as fetus cells being used in either the production or development of these vaccines (my wife and I are ardently pro-Life). But I’m hearing this line of argument could potentially be challenged by HR as many other over the counter medications like cough medicine and Tylenol have fetal cells. Both of which I have taken in the past but certainly not on even a regular basis. In fact, it’s been at least a decade since I took either.
Those actions do Not invalidate your position. One should not knowingly make use of products that use of fetal products. So, if the other products are brought up, say “Thank you for informing me, now I know not to use them. And my objection to the shot stands.”
Your religious exemption:
Galatians 1:15
15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born,[a] and who called me by his grace,
It is my sincere religious belief that I cannot knowing take or use medication that uses in research, development, test or production the use of aborted cells. I will continue to pray and seek guidance over the issue but at this time I consider myself exempt IAW the laws and the EO.
Have you had a flu vaccine in the last five years? Most docs rely on patients to let them know if they had a reaction to it. That’s your best bet. If you can make it work.
My son’s situation is his company says they will accept religious exemption but will still fire him if their clients don’t, so his thinking is to put all the info out there and let them do what they are going to do.
He already has a company interested in hiring him (and some of his coworkers), at a higher salary and position, that does not mandate vaccines. He says the only reason he does not leave now is his current employer has been good to him in the past and he wants to give them an opportunity to do the right thing.
So, I know a lot of people say shorter is better, but my son wanted his letter to be packed with info - he had a lot he wanted to say so I helped him research and write one. It’s here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3999503/posts?page=5426#5426
If your employer is not denying exemptions, they can make this easy as “check the box.” You seem to indicate that your employer doesn’t really want the mandates. If this is the case, the employer can make it very easy on employees. The fight occurs when the employer really wants to impose the mandates and then they fight the employees and deny exemptions.
In crafting a letter, the standard is YOUR personally held sincere beliefs. So you have to articulate what you might believe.
Some Christians are opposed to the use of the HEK 293 (Pfizer and Moderna) and PER.C6 (J&J) fetal cell lines in either their development or research and testing stages.
Be prepared for the “BUT BUT TYLENOL!!!” line if you go this route. I think that you can make a meaningful distinction between Tylenol, which long predated the cell lines, and these vaccines, which were developed and tested in their earliest stages with the fetal lines.
For example, there is a distinction between the use of fetal lines in the development and testing of new drugs, that isn’t the same when psychos take existing drugs and then test them on fetal lines. The later isn’t developed from or tested on the fetal lines in the process of developing the new drug.
Some Christians are also opposed to the mRNA process for vaccines altogether. An argument can be made that only God has the right and the power to manipulate mRNA and instructing your body to do anything on the cellular level. One can make a meaningful distinction between an attenuated whole cell virus vaccine and one that used mRNA.
Some Christians argue that this is a precursor to the Mark of the Beast.
Other Christians can argue from the spheres of authority.
It all depends on what you believe.
There are doctors online that will provide exemption letters after an appointment
If company tried to dispute a medical exemption they are risking getting into ADA violation territory
Check these out:
https://www.thechristianworldview.org/topic-how-to-write-your-covid-vaccine-exemption-letter/
You don’t technically need a pastor/sponsor, you just need your own personal beliefs about abortion links to vaxes, and/or your body is a temple and you don’t want to put foreign substances in it.
FReepmail.
Reference the religious exemption. DO NOT LET THEM DEFINE what that means. The left / powers that be, are trying to express the religious exemption as only being about fetal stem cells. Thus they get to say “Well if you do this then you cant sincerely hold that belief”. There are several other passages in the bible that restrict self harm. Also, it is not up to your pastor or priest.
So the most basic question of "Do you have a sincerely held religious belief that prevents you from receiving the CV-19 vaccine?" YES!
To provide a statement of such is as simple as stating: "I am sincere in that the CV-19 vaccination requirement is in direct conflict with my religious beliefs. If forced to take the vaccinations I would have to violate one or more of my religiously held beliefs"
IF they ask you anything about receiving a VAX anytime in the past do not answer it! Any past vax has nothing to do with your currently held religious beliefs! PERIOD!
As far as giving a "letter" from a "religious leader"... Here is the response to that: "I request that our company accept my written statement above alone. I do not require a religious intermediary to speak or write on my behalf. I ask also that our company please observe all of my Civil and Privacy Rights that protect me from religious discrimination. Please accept my signature below and grant me a lawful religious exemption to the President's mandate that was made on our company.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3994994/posts
“Fighting The Illegal Mandates”: Law Firms That Can Help
https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/law-firms-that-can-help/
Here are some ideas along with a template letter.
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I suggest you get the shot. Simple.
I work for a major IT company as a field service engineer and am 55 and in the same boat as you. I have to be jabbed by December 8th since I support a Federal account. I was also told that I have to comply with customer guidelines whom I service and one of the major accounts I go to has already mandated that everyone who comes onsite must be able to attest to being vaccinated so my deadline may come sooner. I have 24 years in the company and I am planning to let them fire me and take enough from my 401K to pay off my major debts take the tax hit and then maybe work in a more menial job (if there are any such jobs) or go a different direction until I can retire.
1) there is existing SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT (I’ll give the links in a bit)
that the company cannot question a sincere religious exemption; the EEOC has in the past interpreted / enforced this, that even if the leaders of the denomination do not agree with the particular interpretation, this is not enough to override a sincere religious belief.
The cases are relating to conscientious objector status to the draft in the 1960s.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3995812/posts?page=66#66
The employers can test sincerity, blanket statements like “your church doesn’t believe that” won’t cut it.
29 CFR § 1605.1: In most cases whether or not a practice or belief is religious is not at issue. However, in those cases in which the issue does exist, the Commission will define religious practices to include moral or ethical beliefs as to what is right and wrong which are sincerely held with the strength of traditional religious views. This standard was developed in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965) and Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 333 (1970). The Commission has consistently applied this standard in its decisions. The fact that no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not accept such belief will not determine whether the belief is a religious belief of the employee or prospective employee. The phrase “religious practice” as used in these Guidelines includes both religious observances and practices, as stated in section 701(j), 42 U.S.C. 2000e(j).”
The fact that an employee didn’t always act in a manner consistent with the belief is not the legal standard either, as religious beliefs can change over time.
Here is a good link from the Rutherford Institute about how to sue for religious discrimination and in what order.
https://www.rutherford.org/files_images/general/D02_Title-VII-Claim-of-Religious-Discrimination_2001.pdf
Here are some other sites for religious exemptions:
https://www.jdfarag.org/exemption
Here is a discussion of guidance (not force of law) from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission:
https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/section-12-religious-discrimination#h_25500674536391610749867844
2) the list of tylenol, etc.
There are many sources for this story:
Leaked White House Call Shows DOJ Lawyer Discussing How To Undercut Vaccine Religious Exemption Claims(The Suncoast News & Scoop)
http://thesuncoastnews.com/2021/10/leaked-white-house-call-shows-doj-lawyer-discussing-how-to-undercut-vaccine-religious-exemption-claims/
Leaked White House Call Shows DOJ Lawyer Discussing How To Undercut Vaccine Religious Exemption Claims (NewsWars)
https://www.newswars.com/leaked-white-house-call-shows-doj-lawyer-discussing-how-to-undercut-vaccine-religious-exemption-claims/
Leaked White House Call Shows DOJ Lawyer Discussing How exactly to Undercut Vaccine Religious Exemption Claims (Anti 5G and EMF)
https://anti5g.net/index.php/2021/10/20/leaked-white-house-call-shows-doj-lawyer-discussing-how-exactly-to-undercut-vaccine-religious-exemption-claims/
BOMBSHELL! Leaked White House Call Shows NAZI DOJ Lawyer Discussing How To Undercut Vaccine Religious Exemption Claims (Whatfinger)
https://linkshare.whatfinger.com/bombshell-leaked-white-house-call-shows-nazi-doj-lawyer-discussing-how-to-undercut-vaccine-religious-exemption-claims/
Leaked Audio Shows White House Official Discuss Combating Religious Exemption Claims (Conservative Brief)
https://conservativebrief.com/leaked-audio-53053/
Leaked Audio Shows White House Official Discuss Combating Religious Exemption Claims (Conservative Daily Wire)
I wanted to reference these so folks won’t think it’s just another InfoWars/Alex Jones production. Let’s face it, he’s not well liked everywhere but I initially saw this on his website and wanted to see if it was referenced in other places.
https://conservativedailywire.com/leaked-audio-shows-white-house-official-discuss-combating-religious-exemption-claims/
Tums were discovered in 1928.
Ex-Lax was created in 1906.
Aspirin’s precursors date back to the Indians 300 years ago (willow bark) and in the old world to ancient Egypt (3500 years ago).
The precursor to tylenol dates back to 1886; Tylenol itself was introduced as a prescription in 1955.
They’re lying.
It’s nonsense. Their list is not drugs created using fetal cells; the tests they list are AFTER the drugs were made. If you buy a Ford pickup, and two years later someone buys a different Ford pickup, and uses it to run over people, that doesn’t mean all Ford pickups are evil. And it doesn’t mean YOU are guilty of running people over.
I’ll send you a FReepmail shortly. Got some inside scoop on this.
Pacific Justice Institute has solid guidance
My request for a religious exemption to the vaccine mandate was accepted by my HR Department today!
I was not sure what the outcome would be and was already bracing myself for the possibility of finding myself involuntarily retired early and unemployed for the first time in nearly five decades! But I got a stay of execution, so to speak.
My company will be in touch with me later on what hoops I need to jump through now that I have been granted an accommodation. Probably social distancing at the office, mask wearing and COVID-testing as needed. But I am very thankful for the accommodation as I was simply not prepared to get these shots!
I sure hope all this nonsense ends soon but in the meantime, I'll take victories where I can get them.