Posted on 10/22/2021 7:38:59 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
There are reports that the crew was target shooting with the gun (or guns) a few days before. If true the armorer, if he or she knew, is going to jail.
Unless, of course, you just happen to have a great way to kill someone who was getting on your nerves.
The camerawoman was very attractive and Baldwin has rage issues
just read that he joking pointed the gun at the 2 victims and fired.....dont know how true yet, but thats the lastest i saw.....
I think there is more to the story then is being told. First was he out shooting as part of a scene, or was he acting up. And as this going to head live ammunition in it, how could it even be considered a prop? He should be charged with manslaughter until proven otherwise.
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/22/1048295916/props-gun-death-injuries-rust-movie-set-rare
“When I’m doing a training session with a performer, my main guideline, the heartbeat of the conversation, is to make sure that they are treating any weapon — whether it’s a bladed weapon or a firearm — as if it could potentially kill somebody. And those are usually the words I use,” said UCLA’s Williams. “It’s a serious situation and everyone’s got to be on their game.”
Hollywood adheres to Safety Bulletins, written and distributed by the Industry-Wide Labor-Management Safety Committee, for standards on weapon and prop safety, as well as other rules.
In the first bulletin addressing firearms and the use of blank ammunition, the document notes prominently: “TREAT ALL FIREARMS AS THOUGH THEY ARE LOADED.” It goes on to say live ammunition is to never be used nor brought onto a set.
Lots more responsibility needed by all when you are play acting with guns Mr. Play Actor.
It was NO ACCIDENT. He purposefully pointed the weapon and pulled the trigger expecting it to discharge. NOT AN ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE. 100% negligent discharge!
It was completely NEGLIGENT and someone died at your hand, Mr. Play Actor. Who do we charge with negligent manslaughter?
Pray for all involved. The irony is strong here. Anti gun Hollywood can’t make a movie without a gun. I hope Baldwin learns humility though it looks like he was quick to take a defensive tone.
It was a real firearm. My kids, way before their teen years, were taught to treat all firearms like they’re loaded. Even the four year old got it. Having said that, on movie sets, live ammo is used rarely and under strictly controlled conditions. They usually have a firearms expert handling everything, including ammo. Every gun guy knows you don’t hand a loaded firearm to a child or a moron. Every person in the movie industry is on notice that Alec Baldwin is a total moron. Lots of blame to go around.
You mistake what I meant by "Prop guns don't have bullets". I'm 72 and have been shooting since I was 14. I also reload my own ammunition. My statement was related to the presence of live ammo in the building, not what it was doing in the weapon. Now, that clearly leads to "what was it doing in the weapon"?
Maybe old hot-head set it all up as a plausible accident.
Alec Baldwin has killed more people with a gun than I have with mine.
If he was “joking around” and pointed the gun at them and fired, manslaughter is an appropriate charge. If the gun was loaded with an actual bullet, everyone responsible for checking the gun should be also be charged.
How does a dummy round go through a person and then seriously wound another?
Let's ponder this a bit.
Great points. Indeed you have to wonder how the heck live ammo got on the set. Perhaps we’ll find out the truth...
I don't like Baldwin, but whomever handed him a gun loaded with live ammo instead of blanks is at fault here.
In case anyone is keeping score, here is where it stands:
Alec Baldwin 1
NRA 0
Ban Hollywood. If it just saves one life, it will be worth it!
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