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Delta Variant Death Rate Among Vaccinated Over 5 Times HIGHER Than the Unvaccinated in England
NoQ Report ^ | 3 September 2021 | Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn

Posted on 09/03/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

A new report with detailed data from Public Health England provides some startling numbers.

For the period of February 1 through August 2 there were COVID Delta variant cases for 47,000 people who had received 2 vaccine doses, and for 151,054 people who were unvaccinated.

In the first group of vaccinated people there were a total of 402 deaths, and in the second much larger group of unvaccinated people there were 253 deaths. To get the death rate you divide the number of deaths by the total number of infection cases.

That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated. That is an amazing difference. The death rate among vaccinated was just over five times greater than that for the unvaccinated.

In other words, unvaccinated people who got infected were enormously safer from death. How can we explain this huge difference in terms of medical science? It should also be noted that it was determined that the measured viral load in both groups was the same.

So, why are vaccinated people dying more frequently than the unvaccinated. Here are some plausible explanations.

First, there is something very dangerous and unsafe in the COVID vaccines associated with spike proteins that are causing people to die at a higher rate. For example, as discussed elsewhere, all current vaccines have been associated with serious blood problems, notably both large and microscopic blood clots. Many people have died from brain bleeds and strokes, for example.

There are also many, many other types of adverse side effects causing a host of medical problems. Two famous virologists warned against using the current vaccines because they are fundamentally unsafe and could be killing people. They loudly proclaimed that the mass vaccination program should be halted. Instead, they advocated use of treatments using generic medicines like ivermectin, as detailed in Pandemic Blunder.

Second, it is reasonable to believe that most unvaccinated people have acquired natural immunity from some prior COVID infection. And that natural immunity is far more protective than the artificial or vaccine immunity obtained from jabs. Yet the US, like many other countries, does not give credit for natural immunity on a par with vaccine immunity when it comes to COVID passports and mandates. Very few nations do the right thing by honestly following the science.

Third, vaccinated people are susceptible to breakthrough infections, which means that they are not protected against infection after they have been originally infected. Phony and dangerous COVID vaccines do not destroy the virus, nor prevent transmitting it to others.

Conclusion The new data from England involving very large numbers of people should be headline news. But the biased and dishonest big media suppress this kind of critical data. Why? Clearly, if vaccinated people die at a much higher rate than unvaccinated people, then why should people be enthusiastic about being vaccinated? They should not. This is especially true for the millions of people who have natural immunity.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
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To: Mariner

As has been born out in Israeli studies, many of the 50+ unvaccinated individuals were those deemed too fragile to take the vaccine. Period. What I think we are seeing is a trend of very unhealthy unvaccinated succumbing to COVID / co-morbidities and a trend of fully vaccinated previously healthy persons perishing due to ADE. If I am right, those graphs will present themselves in the VERY near future. There is a reason Pfizer is bringing their own brand of ivermectin online, and it’s not because of their ‘fantastic’ vaccine.


61 posted on 09/03/2021 10:00:12 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall
"Here’s a question... how come the COVID vax skeptics are the ones posting data? "

I would guess it is because the typical COVID article is woefully deficient with regard to including sufficient data to draw conclusions.

There was an article with an alarming headline stating that 10 of the 55 people who died of COVID in Oregon in July were vaccinated. The article made it sound like the vaccine was barely effective.

I had to look up the demographic data for Oregon to conclude that the vaccinated were dying at one-tenth the rate of the unvaccinated. It's just too much work to research all these alarmist articles.

62 posted on 09/03/2021 10:01:14 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Fractal Trader

Older people are more likely to be vaccinated and because of their poor immune systems, that occurs with age, will die from COVID even though they are vaccinated. This situation will change as the immune suppressed demographics is burned out by more deaths, leaving the vaccinated elderly with strong immune systems that will benefit more from the vaccinations than the unvaccinated.


63 posted on 09/03/2021 10:05:21 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: William Tell

Your claim is that there are only hysterical COVID articles posted with logic you could drive a bus through... Well, why don’t you post that article and explain what is problematic. Does that article exist, or are you making it up? My reply was to someone decrying sources. You have presented information with no attribution whatsoever. Thanks for playing. Try again.


64 posted on 09/03/2021 10:09:43 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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To: jonrick46

Their immune systems will be absolute rubbish following the booster regimen Fauci has in mind. Wake up.


65 posted on 09/03/2021 10:12:28 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

ADE has not been diagnosed in anyone on the planet.


66 posted on 09/03/2021 10:19:06 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

How do you know??? It’s been diagnosed in animals. Are you saying it’s a myth??? I’m making it up???


67 posted on 09/03/2021 10:21:09 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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To: Mariner

Rather ADE has not been diagnosed with a Covid vaxxed person.


68 posted on 09/03/2021 10:24:24 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

“I’m making it up???”

No.

It’s well known with the Dengue fever vax.

But nobody on the planet with a Covid vax has been diagnosed with it thus far. We know that because all the zealots are scouring every publication worldwide for evidence of it.

If it emerges, it will be posted here within 5 minutes.


69 posted on 09/03/2021 10:27:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: MarMema

What’s your source for that?

Here’s the original source for what you called “fake news.”

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf


70 posted on 09/03/2021 10:27:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Mariner

Differentiating ADE from a ‘new strain’ will be extremely difficult. We both know that. And it’s not the zealots seizing on it that I worry about. It’s the damn three letter agencies and pharmaceutical companies hiding it is what I worry about.

Be honest. If ADE becomes a problem with COVID mRNA vaccines, will Fauci, the CDC, the FDA, or big Pharma admit it?


71 posted on 09/03/2021 10:33:04 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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To: Bobalu
So.. old, obese, frail, diabetic geezers who have been vaccinated are at greater risk simply because of their comorbidity.

Now explain why Fauxi is trying to push the jab onto people younger than 12.

Hint : Ka-ching!

Hint 2: Bill Gates is for depopulation, bragged in public about making a 20-to-1 return on his investments in "vaccinations"... and he can't even protect his own computers from viruses. And you need to pay for endless updates to his crappy Operating system, which he forces on you whether you want them or not.

Sound familiar?

72 posted on 09/03/2021 10:34:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Left2Right
Well then, the vax was a colossal waste, wasn't it?

Why didn't they try massive Ivermectin and such at the first hint of symptoms? Answer: ka-ching!

73 posted on 09/03/2021 10:36:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ETCM

Can you dig into the fine print, and see if this study calls people ‘unjabbed’ if they got the jab, but less than 2 weeks before getting sick?


74 posted on 09/03/2021 10:37:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Jane Long

Please explain about the RSVs.


75 posted on 09/03/2021 10:42:49 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

“If ADE becomes a problem with COVID mRNA vaccines, will Fauci, the CDC, the FDA, or big Pharma admit it?”

They will most certainly be reluctant, at least.

But if a Johns Hopkins or Stanford publishes, they will have to.

Again, if it happens.

And right now we have no data to indicate it will. We have only alarmists saying it could.

And hell, ANYTHING COULD happen. People are being injected with RNA snippets that cause cells to produce a known toxic molecule completely foreign to the human body.

So far none of the nightmare scenarios have manifest.


76 posted on 09/03/2021 10:49:16 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Fractal Trader

Epstein didn’t murder himself or jabbers, it was ADE.


77 posted on 09/03/2021 10:51:34 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: jerod

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf

Since you didn’t bother going to the site, I did it for you. There is a link that takes you to the stats.

So much for fake news.


78 posted on 09/03/2021 11:02:36 PM PDT by roving
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To: MarMema
It seems as though its your side who keeps coming out with the fake news. R
79 posted on 09/03/2021 11:07:45 PM PDT by roving
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To: Responsibility2nd

“These mRNA vaccines actually break down and destroy the body‘s natural immune system.”

What’s your citation for that claim?


80 posted on 09/03/2021 11:10:15 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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