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1 posted on 08/23/2021 9:45:08 AM PDT by Be Careful
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Your “America First Independent Caucus” would then give all the power of the vote back to the Democrats since they could align with the GOP. That would be the only way anything could pass.


2 posted on 08/23/2021 9:47:24 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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Oh stop it. If a Republican majority is elected, the only way they can accomplish anything is to stick together and force through legislation we support. To divide the caucus is to hand power back to the Democrats.


3 posted on 08/23/2021 9:48:51 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...)
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I keep running scenarios on this.....and actually, if the GOP picks up the House, this “Independent Caucus” can deprive the GOP of the majority, thereby leaving the Dems in control of the House.....but not really....as the Dems would not have the votes to carry out their agenda...this could be really interesting to drill down on. It would take A LOT of COURAGE....


4 posted on 08/23/2021 9:48:55 AM PDT by Be Careful
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Remember that committee seats are assigned by party membership of congress. This would result in a split GOP and a unified DEM party. You could very likely see a strange split. Say 45% Dem, 30% GOP, and 25% Independent.

Not sure if it would be beneficial or not.


5 posted on 08/23/2021 9:49:04 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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It starts Jan. 1. first primary is March 1(Tx.). We gotta let these folks know there will not be a place for them in 2022.


6 posted on 08/23/2021 9:50:04 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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They are already neutered...................


7 posted on 08/23/2021 9:50:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Why couldn’t Republican candidates run on an America First platform.
They would still be repubs
But they would basically agree on 5 or so major points.
Then if they don’t follow through they are done.
That is assuming there will be legitimate elections in the future.


13 posted on 08/23/2021 9:55:20 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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The GOP has long been self-neutering.


15 posted on 08/23/2021 9:56:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Republican is pretty meaningless. We had a Republican house, senate and presidency for the first 6 years of Bush. We had a republican house, senate and presidency the first two years of Trump and all they did was attack him relentlessly, hold his nominations hostage, forbid him from firing people, ever-ride his policies on Mexico, China, Russia, Syria and Afghanistan.
The GOP supported the 2020 election steal.

Republicans need to come up with a reason to trust them again. And if the same leaders are there, they have not learned a thing.


16 posted on 08/23/2021 9:57:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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We are way past the “Let’s devise a cunning plan” stage.

We are fully and completely at the brute force stage.


17 posted on 08/23/2021 9:58:25 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles.)
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And then you have Pelosi and Schumer. Good job


23 posted on 08/23/2021 10:06:41 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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So 2020 did not teach us once and for all that the GOP and Democrats do not exist as separate entities, and only the Uniparty exists?


24 posted on 08/23/2021 10:07:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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He would give up the gavel.

They LIKE Democrats. They LIE to their base.


25 posted on 08/23/2021 10:11:52 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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It seems to me that Ronna McDaniel has already neutered the GOP in Congress and elsewhere.


26 posted on 08/23/2021 10:13:22 AM PDT by Howie66 (TRUMP WON!)
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Enough with the “war gaming” already, let’s get the house back first.


27 posted on 08/23/2021 10:13:47 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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There are always purist fools who are prepared to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They will cut their nose of to spite their face.


29 posted on 08/23/2021 10:20:00 AM PDT by Bayan
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It is going to be hard to win the Senate. Even if we pick up one or 2 not much will happen.

More likely the GOP wins the house but is that true given election fraud.


31 posted on 08/23/2021 10:21:45 AM PDT by alternatives?
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More hand wringing..
No way should 2022 be a victory for the republiCANT’S...

The bush league chamber of commerce worshipping republiCANT’S must be removed from the party, at all costs...

And please don’t lecture me about the damage the democommies will do..
THEY ARE ALREADY DOING IT... with help from the bush league chamber of commerce worshipping republiCANT’S...

There is nothing worse than a backstabbing traitor.... not even a democommie..
At least you know what a democommie is going to do...

The bush league chamber of commerce worshipping republiCANT’S must be politically slaughtered... And 2022 is the year to do it...


33 posted on 08/23/2021 10:41:18 AM PDT by joe fonebone (bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN'Ts are the enemy)
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No!

Even if people believed it would work, not enough would care to act on it.

34 posted on 08/23/2021 10:51:46 AM PDT by G Larry (Those destroying the Constitution must demonize those who would defend it.)
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The GOP “leaders”, are garbage and they make it hard to support the GOP knowing McCarthy and McConnell are horsecrap RINO’s.


35 posted on 08/23/2021 10:52:41 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Dementia Joe and the Whore, leaders of the Free world.)
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