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Why do Muslims seek refuge in the non-Muslim West?
hurriyetdailynews.com ^ | March 8, 2017 | MURAT YETKİN

Posted on 08/22/2021 8:22:29 AM PDT by grundle

The question is a crucial one since it is one of the main political subjects in Europe, which is about to stage a number of national elections.

It is the unwritten question in the ongoing debate between Turkey and Germany over Turkish politicians’ desire to address communities from Turkey in Germany (and other countries with Turkish residents like France, Austria and the Netherlands) over the April 16 referendum about a possible shift to an executive presidential model as sought by President Tayyip Erdoğan. This is because it involves an agreement between Turkey and the European Union over the control of the refugee flux that has been amplified by the Syrian civil war.

The EU, as the world’s richest economic region with 28 countries and the house of some of most advanced democracies on earth, is trying to cope with a total of 2.3 million refugees. The number of refugees in Turkey, mostly from Syria, is around 3.5 million.

As difficulties about security and economy increase, more people in Turkey say they would like to live in another country (more than 27 percent according to a MetroPoll survey) – but not as refugees. They just want to live a more easygoing and prosperous life.

In the case of refugees, they are after security, justice and basic needs. A crushing majority of them are from Muslim countries such as Syria, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Morocco, Mali, Somalia and others.

Those running for their lives are Muslims but they are not seeking shelter in other Muslim countries, except for Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon, where the political systems are not based on religious law. They turn their eyes to predominantly non-Muslim, mostly Christian societies in the West.

Why is that so?

Rached Ghannouchi, the leader of the Ennahda movement in Tunisia, who can speak as a – or perhaps the only – success story from the Arab Spring, is also looking for an answer to that question.

In a speech he delivered in Ankara on Feb. 8 in a conference organized under the title of “Ankara Palace Meetings” by a group dominated by politicians and academics in line with the ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Parti), Ghannouchi said the following:

• “In the Medieval Ages, people living in Europe used to migrate to Islamic countries. Nowadays, unfortunately, Muslims living in dictatorships are migrating to European countries. They are not turning their heads from Islam to infidelity, they are looking for a shelter from oppression.”

When a politician among the audience asked Ghannouchi about the increasing bias against Islam in Europe and especially in France, the answer of the Islamist leader, who maturely shared power with secular politicians despite winning an election, was instructive:

• “The evidence that people in North Africa are migrating to France is that the life in France is better. … France is seen as a democratic country. There is freedom of religion [in France]. Muslims are living there in peace. Some of those Muslims have acted badly against France with terror. Some Muslims who were raised by France have misunderstood Islam. Those doing that have not only harmed France, but also Islam; they put Muslims living in France in a difficult position. We condemned those acts of terror and stood by France. … Terrorism is something we have to condemn whether it is in America, France, Turkey or Tunisia. Terror cannot have any righteous justification.”

The seasoned politician also stated that true Islam could only flourish in free and just societies, not under sectarian oppression, even in Muslim societies.

As long as Muslim societies lack true democracies with respect for rights for all citizens, migration in search of security, justice and freedom will continue. Therefore, the answer is not in building walls and fences, accepting oppressive regimes as they are because they are good trading partners or seeking to alienate them, but extending a hand to better the quality of democracies – something that will ultimately lead to better economies.


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To: grundle
Why do Muslims seek refuge in the non-Muslim West?

It's part of the hijrah.

And there are probably some non-practicing Muslims who just want to get away from Muslim majority governments and sharia.

21 posted on 08/22/2021 9:19:15 AM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: grundle
Why do Muslims seek refuge in the non-Muslim West?

It's part of the hijrah.

And there are probably some non-practicing Muslims who just want to get away from Muslim majority governments and sharia.

22 posted on 08/22/2021 9:19:15 AM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: null and void

good point


23 posted on 08/22/2021 9:21:55 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists are the real danger )
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To: grundle
Why do Muslims seek refuge in the non-Muslim West?

Because we're soft and weak and will let them take whatever they want.

Only in the West can a graying combat veteran pass himself as as an "unaccompanied minor" to receive additional state benefits.

See those videos on Twitter of people looting Walgreens while security stands aside and lets them?

You can't do that in Afghanistan. They'll cut your hands off. But in America, you can walk into any store and take what you want for free! Nobody will stop you!

We are a soft and weak people scared to death of being called racists. The Muslim world sees this and willfully exploits it.

Can't say I blame them.

24 posted on 08/22/2021 9:26:44 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: CornPop

Migration which is Hegira or hijrah in Arabic is a basic instruction in the Koran. Migrate and increase in the foreign country until you can out breed and outpopulate the natives and then kill or convert them.


25 posted on 08/22/2021 9:32:29 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe hg)
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To: grundle
Why do Muslims seek refuge in the non-Muslim West?

Same reason Willie Sutton robbed banks: because that's where the money is. Oh, there's plenty in, say, Saudi Arabia, but taking it will get your hand cut off.

26 posted on 08/22/2021 9:36:40 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: grundle

To murder infidels a moslem must be where the infidels are


27 posted on 08/22/2021 9:37:14 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die )
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To: grundle

Religious Freedom which allows them to come here and practice islam whether or not many of it’s beliefs are not compatible with our rules of law. If islam was made illegal and cash support was not given, wouldn’t most muslims stay home?


28 posted on 08/22/2021 9:44:13 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: BradyLS

A local park had to ban feeding the ducks and geese because the ducks and geese were becoming aggressive toward the people who wanted to feed them. The birds would attack the people and try to steal the food before it would be offered from the “kind-hearted soul” who had plan to enjoyably feed the birds a little at a time. Also, many of the birds, without any provication, were attacking and biting children, some on the face. Even little ones in carriages were attacked. The town finally banned feeding the birds and put up a fence along the water to keep the ducks and geese from being able to just waddle out of the water into the park. Their aggression got them fenced off from the park side of the pond and left them having to fend for themselves as wildlife should do.


29 posted on 08/22/2021 9:55:29 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460 (Sound familiar?)
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To: grundle

Free Shiite.
White women.
And the muzzy tribes all hate eachother.


30 posted on 08/22/2021 10:01:21 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: grundle

This country and the most of the West is in a spiritual vacuum. So when come, the World is their cloister. They can make demands, even as a small minority.


31 posted on 08/22/2021 10:04:28 AM PDT by CornPop
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To: grundle

Just like commies.

They seek better conditions first, then use the principles of freedom against said society to bludgeon them into submission and defeat.

Much like Dems moving to conservative towns and ruining them.


32 posted on 08/22/2021 10:45:59 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. )
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To: PGR88

I think that is total BS.

The most Euros would go for was to Crusade, trade, or when they were dragged into being fighting slaves the janisaries.


33 posted on 08/22/2021 10:49:20 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. )
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To: Organic Panic

LOL

Meanwhile the white American men tell us it’s oriental yellow women they should be after.


34 posted on 08/22/2021 10:54:10 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. )
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To: grundle
Why do Muslims seek refuge in the non-Muslim West?

Can you say "Invasion" boys and girls?

Your "elected" officials can’t.

Or won’t.

Free choice on this one.

35 posted on 08/22/2021 11:01:56 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I refuse to be afraid. I refuse to bow. I refuse to take any job I do not wish to. So BUZZ OFF!)
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To: grundle

Because they are an invading army and they are slowly but surely destroying countries from the inside. They are taught to do this method from childhood.


36 posted on 08/22/2021 5:22:56 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: grundle

Domination.


37 posted on 08/22/2021 5:26:55 PM PDT by Garvin (The spread of communism anywhere, threatens freedom everywhere. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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