Posted on 08/20/2021 11:08:47 AM PDT by Boomer
What if, or when, it is unequivocally proven that Joe Biden and other Democrats did not legitimately win the 2020 election, but they refuse to give up power? What then?
I think it is a scenario for which we should be prepared because elections without meaning leave us with a stark choice between submission to a one-party totalitarian state or rebellion.
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The second thing must be the questioning of every Democrat in office about what they think of their fellow Democrats at the state level being involved in such "proven" election fraud?
The third thing must be charges filed in a court of law and an arraignment of the people who are arrested.
The fourth thing must be the questioning of all politicians whose reelection benefitted from the "proven" fraud, about what they plan to do now that they learned that they won illegitimately (even if through no fault of their own).
However, all of the above is dependent on there being "proof." Constitutionally, the President may be safely installed into office, but that doesn't mean that the party can't be harassed over what happened, using the "proof" as the basis of questions.
But there must be "proof," and there must be arrests.
-PJ
Unequivocally? That would mean the dems admit to their own fraud. Might as well ask if an asteroid strike will come down and only hit the prez, vp, Pelosi, and 10 of the most notorious dems who engineered the fraud. Aint gonna happen, so why fantasize about it?
There is no mechanism other than impeachment or the 25th ammendment to remove Biden. Both of those require the cooperation/support of Democrats.
Absolute proof that Biden cheated to office will have the same effect as the proof that LBJ stole the election from Nixon — something for the history buffs to discuss, and possibly impetus to change the laws and procedures for future elections.
“If election fraud and certification is PROVEN, I expect somebody to do something.”
Expect in one hand, crap in the other.
Tell me which hand gets full first.
You might as well expect Santa Claus to come down your chimney or the Easter bunny.
And if you are actually DOING anything such as you imply, you are an utter idiot (and endangering any of your co-conspirators) for even hinting at it in a public forum.
The courts can and should take it on and the states and Congress can and should re-certify.
They aren’t going to “leave”.
They won't leave because the courts, the states and Congress won't do what they can and should do.
Pretty sure there is a way to do this constitutionally rather than by revolution but of course the political will must be there and since the current RINO party, which includes far too many fake republicans like those who voted for the $3.2T Green New Deal mislabeled as Infrastructure, this would be a tough hill to climb.
Perhaps when a senate majority with McConnell kicked to the curb and with a strong America First leader plus a House majority with the criminally corrupt Pelosi kicked to the curb we would have a better shot. Someone with a spine would need to lead it though. McCarthy is not that person.
The problem then is a left leaning SCOTUS that I have zero trust in at all.
So it’s revolution or live under totalitarian rule indefinitely. Those will really be our only two choices. Living as a subject and not a citizen is not living; not living free anyway.
And there “must” be an Easter Bunny and a Tooth Fairy, too, by your reasoning.
Neither you nor I get a say, it’s SOCTUS and Congress, no matter how much anyone stomps their feet and holds their breath until they turn blue in the face.
JFK stole 1960 from Nixon. So what? it happened.
Be sure to stop at the liquor store and the pharmacy to pick up a few things.
“If election fraud and certification is PROVEN, I expect somebody to do something.”
Expect in one hand, crap in the other.
Tell me which hand gets full first.
You might as well expect Santa Claus to come down your chimney or the Easter bunny.
And if you are actually DOING anything such as you imply, you are an utter idiot (and endangering any of your co-conspirators) for even hinting at it in a public forum.”
I hope your pearls last for the day.....
Eh. I think that’s where we are.
Yes, we would have:
President elect Trump
President select Biden
President reject Harris
President abject Pelosi
Not true. We already have a duly elected President in Donald J Trump. The only thing to be resolved is making sure he could run again as well as finish this term.
I would like to see the officials responsible arrested, but I won’t hold my breath.
And I would like to see the election process secured - all votes require ID, with said ID subject to Real ID standards. Also maybe require voting machines to provide a human readable receipt that is linked back to a specific machine.
Show me where in the Constitution it says that if fraud is discovered in an election, the results are reversed?
It will make exactly as much difference at the proof that JFK stole IL in 1960 makes today. An interesting point for history nerds.
I usually expect conservatives to behave and think like adults instead of children insisting that there is a Santa Claus.
If there’s anyone actually doing more than bitching and whining, they are smart enough to be a hell of a lot more quiet about it.
Definitely.
Medical supplies.
And they are open 24 hrs a day for your convenience.
What’s the “Declaration of Independence” state? That’s what I’m doing——
Mussolini send off.
Arrests would not be a SCOTUS or Congressional issue, it would be a state Attorney General or a city District Attorney issue.
It would be a local news media issue. It would be a local voter outrage issue.
But there has to be "proof."
-PJ
That’s why I labeled Trump president elect rather than President. He isn’t actually president at that point and I don’t think he ever would be.
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