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Interesting take. Kubrick - at least the early Kubrick - is about my favorite director. But I think his last several films he was so obsessed with technique that the finished product is almost clinical. Anyway, a good read....


1 posted on 07/18/2021 2:07:26 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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“WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, PRIVATE”?


2 posted on 07/18/2021 2:11:44 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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I thought Full Metal Jacket was told in 3 acts, not 2.


3 posted on 07/18/2021 2:12:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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I’ll have to smoke some more weed and think about that for a while Hal.


5 posted on 07/18/2021 2:12:51 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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If that's not the face of evil...


6 posted on 07/18/2021 2:13:59 PM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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All of Kubrick is watchable.

Even the ponderous Eyes Wide Shut had some interesting things to say about the reality with which we’re presented and the existence of an economic/political uberclass which is not answerable to the laws and morays of “average” people. Sound familiar?


7 posted on 07/18/2021 2:29:05 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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>> By 2001, it seemed quite reasonable that there would be giant space-stations in orbit round the Earth and — a little later — manned expeditions to the planets.
>>In an ideal world, that would have been possible: the Vietnam War would have paid for everything that Stanley Kubrick showed on the Cinerama screen. Now we realize that it will take a little longer.

With or without the war, the Left was always against spending money on sending Man into Space when they had demographics to spend money on back here on Earth.

Rev. Jamel & Bob Johnson - Walking on the Moon (Men Are Starving) (1971)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HhjFMse8jM


8 posted on 07/18/2021 2:29:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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My recall from the release of Full Metal Jacket is that critics didn’t like it much and thought it was a lesser work. They certainly thought Platoon was the much better film.

It was the first Kubrick film I saw on first release in the theater.


9 posted on 07/18/2021 2:33:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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Dr. Strangelove was my favorite. I was about 11 years old when it came out. My older brother was a huge Peter Sellers fan. Initially my mother would not let us go to the movie because of the movie’s title. We talked her into going to the movie with us and we gave her the option of taking us home if the movie was about sex. She laughed as hard as we laughed and stayed until the end when Slim Pickens rode the H-bomb with his cowboy hat on.


10 posted on 07/18/2021 2:38:06 PM PDT by forgotten man
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Full Metal Jacket actually takes place in an alternate universe where Private Gomer Pyle is assigned to Sgt. Hartman instead of Sgt. Carter.


17 posted on 07/18/2021 3:14:04 PM PDT by Clemenza (Elon Musk: wealthiest welfare queen in history )
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My favorite movie that takes place in Vietnam is not a Vietnam film per se: Apocalypse Now.

Greatest war movie ever made was “The Battle of Algiers.”

24 posted on 07/18/2021 3:18:35 PM PDT by Clemenza (Elon Musk: wealthiest welfare queen in history )
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For the record my favorite Kubrick film is Paths of Glory.
28 posted on 07/18/2021 3:33:07 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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I hate the way the script dispatched Sgt. Hartman. (As if recruits shooting their sergeants was a rather common thing.) That scene ruined the rest of the movie for me.


29 posted on 07/18/2021 4:03:25 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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I get what you are saying, but that’s imo his genius. I think he was obsessed with conveying some or another message using technique.

For example: Path’s of Glory is perfection in sound design. Barry Lyndon is perfection in cinematography - shot entirely using natural light (though he did use cellophane and reflectors to give some tone to the light and shade). 2001 Space Odyssey is perfection in use of special effects (at the time). Dr. Strangelove is perfection in set design and sarcasm and irony. The B52 bomber was top secret but he and his crew were able to build a nearly perfect replication of it using 100s of various unclassified photos of gauges and knobs etc - rumor is that the US Military approached him after it was released (original release date happened to coincide with JFK assassination so it was delayed and slightly edited to remove a line that would offend the American audience) to figure out how he did it because they were concerned the Soviets might have done the same.

He used Peter Sellers in that, and in Lolita which was one I didn’t see until fairly recently and he got the absolute greatest performances out of Peter Sellers. I think that led him to develop techniques on how to get what he wanted out of his actors. The Shining is perfection in suspense; and from what I have read he instructed the staff and crew to treat Shelley Duvall with indifference and isolation during production in order to literally drive her mad so that her anguish would play sincere in her performance. Kind of cruel if you asked me but it worked.

His last film Eyes Wide Shut took almost 2 years to complete production. IMO widely misunderstood but so much nuance. A lot of people see the use of lens flare as some kind of mistake he made but a guy like Kubrick who used lens flare in several of his films, often as a symbol of sexual attraction between characters, knows how to avoid lens flare. He also was so involved, and took so long, some suggest the emotional energy expended destroyed the relationship between the two lead characters - who were deliberately chosen because they were husband and wife. He combined everything he knew about making movies to make that movie.

I could go on. One interesting thing is how there is so much lore around secondary meanings in his films. The rumor that he faked the moon landing, for example, for NASA, and how he hinted at that in his other films. Even more powerful, from Lolita to Eyes Wide Shut, there a running undercurrent of sexual abuse and exploitation. Some suggest Kubrick, an American who left the USA and never returned sometime after making Spartacus (with Kirk Douglas who was also, like Sellers, in 2 Kubrick films) in part never came back not just because he didn’t like the US Studio system control issues but because he had come to learn a few things about Hollywood he found abhorrent. To wit, Roman Polanski and his abuse of a teenager slipping a mickey into her drink at, of all places, Jack Nicholson’s house. Polanski got busted and fled the country to avoid justice.


41 posted on 07/18/2021 9:42:16 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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