These Corporations are merely puppets. Since the Swamp is not allowed to censor they use these cutouts to do their dirty work.
Posted on 07/07/2021 2:55:00 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
Can people put their hand on another person's mouth and censor them?
Can corporations like Twitter, FB, etc, operate like platforms and publishers simultaneously?
Can they get the perks of a publisher (saying no to essentially a letter to the editor written for all to see, but in this case on Twitter, FB, etc, as newspapers can do this) while claiming they are a platform?
If you have fallible humans that are biased against Trump, how can they be trusted to be "fact checkers"? Where can we find 100% impartial people? If pro-Biden people say a Tweet from Trump is misinformation and pro-Trump people say a Tweet from Biden is misinformation, the only impartial route would be for Twitter (or for that matter FB, etc) to say they won't charge either side with positing so-called "misinformation."
And in subjective areas such as what constitutes "hate" it's all in the eye of the beholder, coming from either the left or the right.
“For people the constitution is clear that no person can be forced to say something they don’t want to.”
What happens when you refuse to say “I do” to the question: “Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?”?
Depends on the venue. Usually nothing except your testimony will be discarded.
If you've been subpoenaed it would probably be taken as you invoking the 5th Amendment.
You can't be forced to testify against yourself but probably could be held in contempt of court in some cases.
TV stations use the public airwaves.
Twitter & Facebook use a combination of the public airwaves and public land right-of-way utility franchises.
As i say, no tax breaks, no subsidies, no protection from lawsuits for what is posted on their site (they clearly have creative control) and I couldn’t care what they do. Such as it stands it’s complete nonsense. It’s clear they own the government.
It all depend on if a Court decides that FB, Twitter, and YouTube are acting as editors when they censor content, and thus lose their Section 230 immunity from lawsuits.
“For people the constitution is clear that no person can be forced to say something they don’t want to.”
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“For people the constitution is clear that no person can be forced to say something they don’t want to.”
By order of the Court in the Case of Mr. Injured vs. Brian Griffin
Please provide a list of all your financial assets no later than 8/7/2021 to the attorney of record for Mr. Injured, Mr. Legal Eagle, Esq.
Who all would this new rule apply to?
Jim has creative control of this place. Would he be liable for what I post?
If a forum can be sued because of what a poster says that forum will stop allowing posts. It's that simple.
If a business acts to put another business out of business, can it be sued for damages?
Section 230 explicitly gives them the right to edit and moderate posts and still maintain their protections.
I think this whole platform/publisher thing was started by people who didn't understand 230 but decided what they thought it should do.
Since then the misunderstanding has been exploited by all kinds of people.
GREAT post; thread.
These Corporations are merely puppets. Since the Swamp is not allowed to censor they use these cutouts to do their dirty work.
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For year after year:
Happy to have you on GrifNet
Shortly before election:
You’re no longer welcome on GrifNet
That would be election-related bad faith dealing in my opinion.
Section 230
roberts special coming if this get there. He will use the logic of congress needs to decide not the courts....
Did your behavior change before the election?
It's moot anyway because the TOS you agreed to says GrifNet can do pretty much anything for any reason.
“For people the constitution is clear that no person can be forced to say something they don’t want to.”
Essentially Twitter is not a person but a collection of pre-programmed machines.
This was typed by me on a Compaq computer running Microsoft software.
It’s sort of like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown at the last minute.
True, and no one ever talks about suing Lucy, they tell Charlie to wise up.
Not all distasteful behavior is illegal.
Twitter stops allowing specific posts already. They monitor post and they take down what is “inappropriate”. Fine, if something gets through their editors then they can get sued for it just like any other publisher. So, either allow everything or become a publisher. Doesn’t seem that hard to follow
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