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Our Unbalanced Constitution and Article V
ArticleVBlog ^ | April 15th 2019 | Rodney Dodsworth

Posted on 07/05/2021 1:05:42 PM PDT by Jacquerie

Subtitle: John Adams Reconsiders Republican Government.

The American Revolution wasn’t a simple colonial rebellion against English imperialism. It was first and foremost a social revolution. We can hardly imagine today the leap in men’s minds from a stratified social order in which all honors were gifts from a King, to that of free and equal republican citizens. In his 1776 Thoughts on Government, John Adams viewed politics as a straightforward struggle between rulers and the people. Cast off monarchy, and indeed all executive authority, and let a virtuous people govern themselves. The Articles of Confederation reflect this reliance on public virtue and abhorrence of executive power.1

Yet, given the poor track record of republics, could America pull off these radical changes without falling into history’s deadly traps? Being without a unifying hereditary monarch to bind the nation, what sort of social glue could possibly prevent infighting, disorders, and eventual dissolution among thirteen distinct peoples?

History had taught that public virtue is the necessary foundation of republics. No republican government could last, said John Adams, unless there was a “positive passion for the public good, the public interest” in the minds of the people. Yet, could America keep this spartan sense of sacrifice?

Many didn’t believe Americans had the requisite public virtue. Even if they did in 1776, keeping the sense of public virtue, and with it the republic, was no easy matter and was certain to eventually fail. In the end, republics are torn to pieces by faction and internal struggles between the commercial and agrarian, the creditor and debtor interests.2

Perhaps more than any revolutionary hero, John Adams rested his hopes on the regenerative effects of republican government and on virtuous politicians who could shape the character of the people. Since the politicians in representative government are interchangeable with the people, everyone must encourage the foundational traits of “strength, hardiness, courage, fortitude, and enterprise.”

By the mid-1780s, the thirteen republics of the United States were clearly incapable of the idealized, utopian free government vision of the Founding Era. To rely on public virtue wrote Adams, the American republics were destined, like every previous republic, for eventual destruction.

Dealing with Reality. The leading Federalists of 1787, like contemporary Article V Opponents, looked about and saw nothing but licentiousness. Rather than accept middleclass lives in equality, Americans pursued happiness through avarice and ambition just as they do today. And to some, ambition meant political office. “Aristocratical passions,” wrote Adams, were often unlimited and all-consuming. He saw little that was meritorious in those who reached the pinnacle of society except their ability to get there. Once on top, the few worked to keep and grow wealthy from their positions by oppressing those below them.

Adams accepted the reality that Americans were as driven by the passions for wealth and precedence as any people in history. The difference between then and now is that once men like Adams realized the situation, they advocated and took measures to deal with man’s nature. Article V opponents’ reliance on public virtue is a blind alley.

Rather than view politics as people v. monarchs, Adams described politics in his 1787 Defense of the Constitutions of the United States as the struggle between the many and the few, the people and the wealthy. Left unchecked, the early American state governments showed how readily the people will turn on the better-off and rob and ruin them without hesitation. Reason certainly allowed that given the opportunity, the wealthy would readily do the same to the people. And America was fast developing a wealthy class. Nothing less than a proper republican executive could mediate the clashing passions of the democratic and aristocratical elements of society.

For Adams, this balance of forces in any free society was The Enlightenment fulfilled. Without knowing so, Adams came to much the same conclusion as the Federal Convention. To keep a balance among the natural orders, the structure of government must confine the wealthy to a legislative chamber of their own. If not, the ambitious will infest the people’s chamber and dominate politics to their own profit. He was right. They are doing it today.

John Adams would be aghast at the sight of our unbalanced Constitution. Thanks to the 17th Amendment, the Senate cast off its aristocratic persona. States no longer send noteworthy men to defend state interests and wealth. Instead of state legislatures, the Senate’s farm team since 1913 is the House of Representatives, which today impossibly “represent” enormous constituencies of over 750,000 people. The average, non-professional, working person stands little chance at election. Only the better off, or those financed by political parties, can remotely aspire to Congress. As recent events involving the southern border crisis illustrate, the House isn’t representative. It is instead a self-serving wealthy body uninterested in the general welfare. It will never dilute the power of its members by adding more seats.3

Free government is an impossibility until we restore balance to our beloved Constitution.

Article V.


TOPICS: Government; History
KEYWORDS: articlev; constitution; johnadams
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To: Jacquerie
Article V DECEPTICON Ping!
21 posted on 07/05/2021 3:56:57 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Eleutheromaniac)
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To: Reily

That is certainly a downside. But even if we double the size of the House there would still be 350,000+ constituents per rep.


22 posted on 07/05/2021 3:59:21 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Thanks for sharing your feelings.


23 posted on 07/05/2021 3:59:44 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

https://www.articlethefirst.net/


24 posted on 07/05/2021 4:03:16 PM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: rarestia

A very informative article. Bookmark. We are stuck at 435 because congressmen like it. They’ll never willingly dilute their power.


25 posted on 07/05/2021 4:10:08 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

435 is an arbitrary number and represents where we were when we stopped adding Congressional reps in the 1930s. Prior to then, we added reps every 10 years after the census. It’s a little known remnant of that era that should be corrected. There’s no written legal doctrine locking us to 435.


26 posted on 07/05/2021 4:12:31 PM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: Jacquerie

The problem with our government is that we’ve moved the royalty to Congress. The House and Senate leaders need to be elected by secret vote.


27 posted on 07/05/2021 4:22:23 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Jacquerie
"...Adams accepted the reality that Americans were as driven by the passions for wealth and precedence as any people in history. The difference between then and now is that once men like Adams realized the situation, they advocated and took measures to deal with man’s nature..."

The heart of the matter. At least, you can tell, it is for me...:)

Thanks for the ping!

28 posted on 07/05/2021 4:25:51 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Jacquerie

Some of the founders wanted to ban political parties as part of the Constitution. God, I wish we could now.


29 posted on 07/05/2021 4:32:17 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“Article V DECEPTICON Ping!”

Ah yes, the house troll shows up. Go away.


30 posted on 07/05/2021 4:34:14 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: rlmorel

Thanks!


31 posted on 07/05/2021 4:37:44 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: rarestia

Noth will change until Term Limits is imposed. Polls consistently show the vast majority supports Term Limits. But Congress simply won’t do it.

Temr Limits will only happen via Article V. After that, other great amendments can be passed. But not until then.

Term limits as an output of an Article V action will sail through the 38 state ratification process.


32 posted on 07/05/2021 4:38:59 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Yes, the Framers spent much time on what to do with factions. They decided to minimize the harm through their system of divided government.


33 posted on 07/05/2021 4:40:30 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: TBP
Perhaps there should be a maximum number of people a congressional district can contain, roughly equal to hte population of the least populous state.

Article I Section 2

The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative;
-PJ
34 posted on 07/06/2021 2:13:31 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: rarestia
Your link is missing the final "t".

Article the First.

-PJ

35 posted on 07/06/2021 2:16:53 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

That’s an upward limit. You can’t have fewer than 30,000 in a district. We need to make a maximum so that Congressional districts don’t get excessively large, as they are now.


36 posted on 07/06/2021 1:48:56 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: TBP
I'm confused by your definition of an "upward limit" versus a "maximum."

Aren't they the same thing?

-PJ

37 posted on 07/06/2021 2:32:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

We need a highest number a Congressional district can contain. it can’t be less than 30,000. What’s the most? Right now, it’s up to an average of around 750,000 per district. That’s too many.


38 posted on 07/06/2021 4:04:29 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: Political Junkie Too
The Constitution says, " The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative;"

We need to amend that to say "The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, nor shall any Representative represent more than (whatever number), but each State shall have at Least one Representative

39 posted on 07/06/2021 4:09:25 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: Political Junkie Too
The Constitution says, " The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative;"

We need to amend that to say "The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, nor shall any Representative represent more than (whatever number), but each State shall have at Least one Representative
40 posted on 07/06/2021 4:13:10 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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