No shortage of ignorance and hate from the leftist Rats
Substitute “everyone” for israel
And you’ve described their true condition
Good website; I bookmarked it.
1889 map of “Modern Palestine”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1889_Modern_Palestine,_shewing_Turkish_provinces.jpg
Kudüs-i Şerif
266,044 Muslims
26,035 Greek Orthodox
1,310 Armenian Orthodox
21,259 Jews
1,086 Greek Catholics
1,733 Protestants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1914_population_statistics_for_the_Ottoman_Empire
The Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem (Ottoman Turkish: مُتَصَرِّف قدسی مُتَصَرِّفلغ, Kudüs-i Şerif Mutasarrıflığı; Arabic: متصرفية القدس الشريف, Mutaṣarrifiat al-quds aš-šarīf), also known as the Sanjak of Jerusalem, was an Ottoman district with special administrative status established in 1872. The district encompassed Jerusalem as well as Bethlehem, Hebron, Jaffa, Gaza and Beersheba. During the late Ottoman period, the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, together with the Sanjak of Nablus and Sanjak of Akka (Acre), formed the region that was commonly referred to as “Palestine”. It was the 7th most heavily populated region of the Ottoman Empire’s 36 provinces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutasarrifate_of_Jerusalem
Beatles: Give peace a chance
If you want to see hate for Israel, check out the comments on any GAB post about Israel.
“The Byzantine era was a time of great prosperity and cultural flourishing in Palestine. New areas were cultivated, urbanization increased, and many cities reached their peak populations. Towns increasingly acquired new civic basilicas, porticoed streets with space for shops, and the erection of churches and other religious buildings invigorated their economies. The total population of Palestine may have exceeded one and a half million, its highest ever until the twentieth century.”
“The Christian Ghassanid Arabs were the largest Arab group in Palestine. Starting in the third century, they migrated from South Arabia and settled in Palaestina Secunda and Palaestina Tertia, where they created two client kingdoms that served as the Byzantines’ buffer zones.”
“In the late 6th century, the Arab leader Muhammad founded a new monotheistic religion called Islam whose followers became known as Muslims. Muhammad united the Arabian tribes into a religious polity, a caliphate, ruled by caliphs, whose domains he and his successors extended into a vast empire through holy war (jihad). They conquered Palestine in 636 to 640.”
“Throughout the period, Palestine was a sort of gold mine for the caliphate and among its most prosperous and fertile provinces. Palestine’s wealth derived from its strategic location as a hub for international trade, the influx of pilgrims, its excellent agricultural produce, and from a number of local crafts. Products manufactured or traded in Palestine included building materials from marble and white-stone quarries, spices, soaps, olive oil, sugar, indigo, Dead Sea salts, and silk. Palestinian Jews were expert glassmakers whose wares became known as “Jewish glass” in Europe. Palestine was also known for its book production and scribal work.”
“The Muslims invested much effort in developing a fleet and in restoring seaports, creating shipyards, fortifying coastal cities, and in establishing naval bases in Palestine. Acre became their chief naval base from which a fleet set out to conquer Cyprus in 647. Jaffa came to replace Caesarea as Palestine’s main port due to its proximity with Ramla.”
“The Yaman tribes came from the Yemeni region of the Arabian peninsula. Many of them had migrated northwards and settled in the southern Levant before the Islamic conquest. Some had even embraced Christianity and had fought alongside the Byzantines. The majority of the Qays, however, arrived after the Islamic conquest and settled in the northern Levant.”
“The Fatimidis established a caliphate based in North Africa in the early 10th century. In 969, they conquered the Ikshidid’s territory and established precarious control over Palestine. Their arrival marked the beginning of six decades of almost uninterrupted and highly destructive warfare in Palestine between them and their many enemies, the Byzantines, the Qarmatians, Bedouin tribes, and even infighting between Berber and Turkic factions within the Fatimid army.”
“In the 11th century, the Muslim Turkic Seljuk Empire invaded West Asia and both the Byzantines and the caliphates suffered territorial losses. Baghad fell in 1055, and Palestine in 1071-1073. Thus, the period of relative calm ended and Palestine again became the scene of anarchy, internal wars among the Turks themselves and between them and their enemies. The Turkic rule was one of slaughter, vandalism, and economic hardship. In 1077, an uprising against the unpopular Seljuk rule spread in Palestine which was quashed with an iron fist. The Seljuks slaughtered the people of Jerusalem, despite having promised them pardon, and annihilated Gaza, Ramla, and Jaffa. In 1098, the Fatimids recaptured Jerusalem from the Seljuks.”
“In 1244, Jerusalem was captured by Khwarizmians who went on to burn churches and to massacre the Christian population. The shock of the atrocities goaded the Latins into action. The Latin nobility pooled all the resources they had together into the largest field army amassed in the East since the late 12 century. Strengthened by troops from dissident Muslim rulers, they met the Ayyubid-Kwarizmian coalition at the Battle of La Forbie north-east of Gaza. There, they suffered a disastrous defeat, marking the end of Latin influence in southern and central Palestine. In 1291, the Mamluks destroyed Acre, the Kingdom of Jerusalem’s capital and last stronghold.”
“During the period of Crusader control, it has been estimated that Palestine had only 1,000 poor Jewish families. Jews fought alongside the Muslims against the Crusaders in Jerusalem in 1099 and Haifa in 1100.”
“Jerusalem was held by the Mongols for four months.”
“The Mamluks, continuing the policy of the Ayyubids, made the strategic decision to destroy the coastal area and to bring desolation to many of its cities, from Tyre in the north to Gaza in the south. Ports were destroyed and various materials were dumped to make them inoperable. The goal was to prevent attacks from the sea, given the fear of the return of the crusaders. This had a long-term effect on those areas, which remained sparsely populated for centuries. The activity in that time concentrated more inland.”
“Most of Palestine’s population, estimated to be around 200,000 in the early years of Ottoman rule, lived in villages. The largest cities were Gaza, Safad and Jerusalem, each with a population of around 5,000–6,000.”
“Ottoman property administration consisted of a system of fiefs called timar and trusts called waqf. Timar lands were distributed by the sultan to various officers and officials, particularly from the elite sipahi units. A timar was a source of income for its holder, who was responsible for maintaining order and enforcing the law in the timar. Waqf land was owned by various individuals and its revenues were dedicated to religious functions and institutions, social welfare and individual beneficiaries. Over 60% of cultivated land in the Jerusalem Sanjak was waqf land. To a lesser extent, there was also privately owned land predominantly located within villages and their immediate vicinity.”
“The name ‘Palestine’ was no longer used as the official name of an administrative unit under the Ottomans because they typically named provinces after their capitals. Nonetheless, the old name remained in popular and semi-official use, with many examples of its usage in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries surviving. The 16th-century Jerusalem-based Islamic jurist Sayf al-Islam Abu’l Sa’ud Effendi defined the term as an alternative name for Arazi-i Muqaddas (Turkish for “the Holy Land”). The 17th-century Ramla-based jurist Khayr al-Din al-Ramli often used the term “Filastin” in his fatawat (religious edicts) without defining the term, although some of his fatawat suggest that it more or less corresponded with the borders of Jund Filastin. Thomas Salmon’s 18th-century book, Modern history or, the present state of all nations, states that “Jerusalem is still reckoned the capital city of Palestine, though much fallen from its ancient grandeur.”
“Gaza’s political influence in Palestine rose under the Ridwan dynasty, particularly during the governorship of Husayn Pasha, which began in the 1640s. It was considered the “capital of Palestine” by the French consul of Jerusalem, Chevalier d’Arvieux.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine
There’s much more, but my bed awaits.
a British Ordnance Survey map:
A larger copy(4000x7022 pixels):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Palestine_Index_to_Villages_and_Settlements%2C_showing_Land_in_Jewish_Possession_as_at_31.12.44.jpg
I agree, the ignorance is an issue.
Another aspect is the position that the history of Israel being imposed on Palestine and then treating hardline Zionism like it’s reasonable is the single biggest reason for the growth in anti-jewish, antiwest, hardline Islamism.
The likes of Jeremy Corbyn, former opposition leader in the UK, are convinced that aggressive Zionism was met with aggressive Islamism and there’s no way you can fix one side of that equation by excusing and egging on the other.
They point to Afghanistan, and Iraq, and even Iran, being comparatively liberal until the religious institutions took over.
They focus only on the Zionism side of it because they think the western world sees everything through the WW2 lens and so focuses on the Islam side and point blank refuses to see anything wrong on the Zionism side.
A common left view is, western Zionists ought to be less cognitively dissonant... just as Israel existed through international interference and the 7 day war happened due to a failure of neighbouring states to accept it and Israel retaliating with full force and fury, the Palestinian area existed because of the 2 state solution and the PLO existed because Israel refused to accept it and all the violence that follows - tickets, but also Palestinian kids lobbing stones at Israelis - is because they’re furious.
It leads to problematic and vile comparison, eg the perception that Gaza is tolerated by the USA because a lot of people who had nothing to do with the Warsaw Ghetto but recognise the evil of Nazis treating the population like ‘untermensch’ and regarding its leaders as ‘scum’, think Palestinian kids only have to live under similar treatment because they’re part of an “untermensch” whose leaders are ‘scum’.
