You seem upset.
Posted on 05/06/2021 11:37:06 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
Texas seems to be inching closer to passing Constitutional Carry in the state, an increasingly common law that allows Americans to own firearms without permission from the government. However, Texas Gun Rights, the Second Amendment activist group championing the bill, says Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick has added a “poison pill” to the Senate version of the bill in a last minute bid to kill the legislation and prevent it from reaching Governor Greg Abbott’s desk.
At least two Texas legislators have expressed concerns that Patrick added amendments to the Senate version of the bill that would legally force the Texas House to reject it, stalling Constitutional Carry legislation for the next two years. On Facebook, Rep. Matt Schaefer wrote, “No celebration yet folks! We are now reviewing amendments that were added by the Senate to look for issues that would break House rules governing the purpose of HB 1927. Our first impression has us very concerned. Will share more as soon as we can. Our goal is to make Texas the 21st Constitutional Carry state.”
Separately, former Rep. Matt Rinaldi added, “So Dan Patrick’s plan to kill constitutional carry is to attach a non-germane amendment that will render it out of order in the House and blame [Texas House Speaker] Dade Phelan when he sustains the point of order.”
Speaking to National File, Matt McNutt of TX Gun Rights said, “In spite of his recent back pedaling, Lt. Gov. Patrick has been no friend to gun owners in the state of Texas. From threats of Universal Gun Registration to actively opposing open carry in 2015 and opposing Constitutional Carry every year since, Lt. Gov. Patrick has been a thorn in the side of law-abiding Texans wishing to defend their families without a government permission slip.”
“Now, it looks like Patrick may have successfully placed a poison pill in an amendment to Constitutional Carry, in hopes it would cause the House to kill the bill by a point of order. This will not be accepted or tolerated. Speaker Phelan and Lt.Gov. Patrick must get HB 1927 to Governor Abbott’s desk immediately. No stall tactics or procedural delays,” McNutt added.
McNutt and TX Gun Rights provided the Texas legislature with 118,000 petitions for Constitutional Carry to be passed in the state, jump starting the legislative process that led to the Texas House to pass its version of the bill. Patrick, who has reliably stopped pro-Second Amendment legislation during his political career in Texas, was instrumental in crafting the Senate’s version of the bill.
You're assuming this "responsibility" will automatically happen before someone gets hurt. Many times, that isn't the case.
You really don't think there were any gun accidents in that period of time where people were injured or killed? I've already figured it out. And, I didn't even have to use Google LOL.
No, you are mistaking being responsible for not doing something. Responsible means accountable for doing something.
Possession/presence of a firearm or other lawful weapon is not a reasonable fact to articulate any crime is afoot.
Unless you are willing to tell the judge and jury that mere possession of a weapon means a criminal mindset and therefore intent.
Substitute any “thing” and see where you get.
Hammer, pencil, word, thought....
Patrick and Abbot are Dens
Oh come now. How often have we heard that “blood in the street” tripe?
Firearms accidents are one of the least worries in society. On the order of 95% reduction in accudental shootings in the last 80 years, no other activity comes near to being as safe. Ping pong is more dangerous than firearm ownership/possession.
Unlawful use of arms/violence/crime is a problem of course. That’s why being armed with or without a permission slip is a right, not a privilege.
I agree with you. As a few certified instructor abd life long shooting, proficiency is desired in any activity, but expertise in exercising one’s life to life liberty andctge pursuit of happiness is not required, but ability and opportunity to so pursue is, if one desires so.
I’m not a professional car driver but I am pretty good at it. ( well, I did have a few anti terror/force protection courses in combat driving heres and there)
Here in Missouri we have both permitted and permitless carry. One must be much more aware of no go places if permitless, on the other hand all restricted places, excepting where prohibited by fedlaw are not even crimes if a permitted carrier.
I think you'll find that is relative to the number of people around you who are carrying or using firearms, and their level of expertise. If you live in a gun-free environment, then ping-pong is likely more dangerous. If you spend a lot of time in un-controled gun-rich environments, you will likely witness accidents. Hopefully, you won't be a victim.
If you still really think this, I encourage you to watch this linked video below in its entirety, and pay close attention to how many rounds are in the "bullet jar." These are the people who will now be able to carry a handgun in Texas without any certification or instruction whatsoever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agL59nLBAqk
Oh my goodness. So glad unlicensed folks can ....vote, publish, worship and move about.
Rights and the free exercise thereof don’t require some else’s permission and certainly not gov’t.
Perhaps some folks should move to places like NY CA or DC where law-abiding but untrained people don’t /can’t lawfully carry. You’ll be safer there I’m sure. Oh wait, that’s where untrained unlawful, non-law-abiding folks do.
Granted, MO has a few big cities where crime rates soar and those folks don’t get permission to carry nor obtain “proper” training, but they seem rather effective at their illustrious behavior.
Reasonable suspicion is a totality of the circumstances analysis. No single factor alone is enough.
In Terry, the officer watched as two men proceeded alternately back and forth along an identical route, pausing to stare into a store window, which they did for a total of about 24 times. Each completion of the route was followed by a conference between the two on a corner, at one of which they were joined by a third man (Katz) who left swiftly.
It’s not illegal to walk in front of a store. It’s not illegal to pause in front of a store. It’s not illegal to have a conversation with people on a street corner. However, you don’t look at each factor individually, you look at everything together. Put together, the officer was able to articulate reasonable suspicion that they were casing the store for a robbery.
I’m not sure what you are going on about. I already pointed out to you that the mere presence of a weapon isn’t enough to create reasonable suspicion. U.S. v Black in the 4th Circuit says as much.
No one suggested otherwise.
My first post was responding ONLY to the assertion that the police needed “probable cause” to stop someone. That simply isn’t the law. Reasonable suspicion is the standard for an investigatory stop.
AFTER this is over and the bill is signed, REMEMBER WELL those that spread disinfo on this subject, the “mobys” ...
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby
re: “If you still really think this, I encourage you to watch this linked video below in its entirety, and pay close attention to how many rounds are in the “bullet jar.” These are the people who will now be able to carry a handgun in Texas without any certification or instruction whatsoever. “
YOU DO REALIZE those are a series of “setup situations” in that video to demonstrate WHAT can happen? In real life, how often do you think that happens?
You seem upset.
But, in Texas, they do lawfully carry and have been. They just couln't be "untrained" or uncertified. That's all changed now.
You’ll be safer there I’m sure.
In Texas, we were as "safe" as could be expected. But, that's going to change now. You will now have untrained/uncertified idiots walking around with guns.
Oh wait, that’s where untrained unlawful, non-law-abiding folks do.
That, and sometimes ending up hurting or killing others. I see this having some long-term negative effects down the road. As more states have uncontrolled carry, I don't see insurance carriers sitting still for this. I can visualize more 30.06 and 30.07 signs popping up as liability carriers start putting the heat on businesses for allowing uncontrolled carry into there establishments. I can also see companies like USCCA raising their rates for those who can't show some proof of licensing or instruction.
I say again, observe the "bullet jar" at the 3:36 mark in the video. As an instructor, I see those "setup situations" happen in real life on a regular basis.
I just wished it had some sort of instructional requirement attached to it. We have drivers licenses for a reason.
re: “I say again, observe the “bullet jar” at “
And I say HOW MANY OF THOSE were from non-gun-savvy people (like ex-wives and not just a few widows) taking their HUSBAND’S GUN into the shop for ANY number of reasons?
He didn’t say, DID HE?
Also unmentioned was HOW MANY of those guns arrived IN A GUN OR PISTOL CASE, and not hand-carried? Again, he doesn’t say ...
You don’t give gun-carrying ppl any credit for smarts.
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