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1655: Massacre of Waldensians
ExecutedToday.com ^ | April 24, 2011 | Headsman

Posted on 04/24/2021 10:52:25 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat

On this date in 1655, Catholic forces under the Duke of Savoy carried out a notorious massacre of Waldensians* in the Piedmont.

This interesting, excommunicate sect had persisted for centuries in those hard-to-reach places in Alpine foothills, intermittently ignored and hunted. After Martin Luther, many Protestants inclined to see them as a proto-Reformation movement, or even a counter-papal apostolic succession reaching back to ancient Christianity.

At any rate, they sure weren’t Catholic.

And our friend the Duke decided — perhaps piqued by the murder of a missionary Catholic priest, or for whatever other reason — to mount one of those heresy-extirpating sorties and make them Catholic in 1655.

On April 17, the Marquis of Pianezza appeared with an overwhelming force of mixed Piedmontese, French, and Irish** troops. They conducted a few skirmishes, then made nice with the Waldensian civic leaders and induced them to quartering their troops temporarily further to some expedient pretext.

Alas! alas! these poor people were undone. They had received under their roof the executioners of themselves and their families. The first two days, the 22d and 23d of April, passed in peace, the soldiers sitting at the same table, sleeping under the same roof, and conversing freely with their destined victims …

At last the blow fell like a thunderbolt. At four of the clock on the morning of the 24th April the signal was given from the Castle of La Torre. But who shall describe the scenes that followed? On the instant a thousand assassins began the work of death...

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I'm sure what was done to them was exaggerated to some degree, but I am equally sure the truth of what happened was far from benign.
1 posted on 04/24/2021 10:52:25 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Bkmk for later read.


2 posted on 04/24/2021 10:57:11 AM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
No, they were slaughtered mercilessly.

Men, women, children, babies.

It was a deep, black evil, perpetuated by Rome and her people.





3 posted on 04/24/2021 11:12:00 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: CheshireTheCat

“I’m sure what was done to them was exaggerated to some degree, but I am equally sure the truth of what happened was far from benign.”
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Not exaggerated, not at all.

Recall, that a university/college in the USA had to SHUT DOWN an experiment concerning college students split as guards vs inmates. The experiment had to be shut down after JUST 3 days because the behavior had become so terrible by the ‘guards’ towards the ‘inmates.’

I don’t recall the correct phrasing of the ‘power corrupts,’ though I am willing to purchase odds that those soldiers were told their enemies, both young and old and all between were from the very depths of Hell and were deserving of any treatment they meted out to them.

Sigh.


4 posted on 04/24/2021 11:19:12 AM PDT by Notthereyet (We're so angry we can spit pea pellets at a tree and drill the dang tree. )
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To: CheshireTheCat
I'm sure what was done to them was exaggerated to some degree, but I am equally sure the truth of what happened was far from benign.

Actually, something nearly exactly like what is reported above happened in Scotland, the "Massacre of Glencoe", not too long after (in the wider scope of general history, that is). Very similar accounts from distant events suggest that, yes, soldiers of that age were willing to perform those acts.

5 posted on 04/24/2021 11:45:00 AM PDT by Brass Lamp
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To: CheshireTheCat

I am really glad that the Catholic Church is down to a square mile of temporal territory. The church needed to get back to being a church.


6 posted on 04/24/2021 11:47:20 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Part of the story why my Italian protestant ancestors ended up in Switzerland.


7 posted on 04/24/2021 11:58:56 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: CheshireTheCat

What do you think the left is going to do to conservatives and Bible believing Christians?


8 posted on 04/24/2021 12:00:43 PM PDT by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: kaehurowing

My Italian Protestant ancestors ended up in Switzerland because every other country’s prisons were already filled with my other ancestors.


9 posted on 04/24/2021 12:02:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: CheshireTheCat

At the root of this barbaric slaughter of “heretic” Christians, was the Roman Catholic doctrine of Amillennialism, which interprets the millennial kingdom of Christ, not after Christ’s second coming but in the here and now.

Which allegedly gave Roman Catholics the right to “rule” as they felt like. To slaughter what they deemed “heretics.” And in any way they felt like, burning them alive at the stake, impaling them, hacking them to pieces with the sword.

Were the Waldensians herettics guilty of such charge? In Catholic eyes they were, as all Protestants.

Makes you wonder what this current Catholic Pope, being an Amillennialist allegedly ruling “the kingdom of God,” would like to do with what he considers heretics...heretic Catholics who oppose his communist agenda, and of course non-Catholic Christians, certainly heretics.

Hard to imagine a worse combo: a communist Amillennialist Pope!


10 posted on 04/24/2021 12:25:39 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: married21

How much longer do we need to wait until it’s a church again?


11 posted on 04/24/2021 12:25:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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The Spanish Inquisition was responsible for half of my family’s ancestors fleeing Spain to Central America.

It’s funny how the Catholic church stands for such evil, isn’t it?


12 posted on 04/24/2021 12:29:28 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Recall, that a university/college in the USA had to SHUT DOWN an experiment concerning college students split as guards vs inmates. The experiment had to be shut down after JUST 3 days because the behavior had become so terrible by the ‘guards’ towards the ‘inmates.’

You're referring to the Stanford Prison Experiment.

This summer will be fifty years since it was conducted.

13 posted on 04/24/2021 1:01:53 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (#notmypedophile)
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To: ConservativeMind

Sometime after Pope Frank takes a dirt nap.


14 posted on 04/24/2021 2:50:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: sasportas
Makes you wonder what this current Catholic Pope

This Catholic sarcastically wonders whom it is that you are talking about.

like to do with what he considers heretics...heretic Catholics who oppose his communist agenda, and of course non-Catholic Christians, certainly heretics

Don't fool yourself. He loves Protestants. He asks them for their blessing, he wants to give them communion, etc., etc. In fact, I would almost say that the more those Protestants hate the Catholic Church, the more +Francis loves them.

15 posted on 04/24/2021 3:03:07 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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I'm not sure why you think the Catholic Church "stands for" the Spanish Inquisition. It was basically run by the Spanish state to persecute and expel those they considered potentially disloyal.

Among those it persecuted were a couple of persons who are now canonized Catholic saints. The Popes intervened multiple times to try to tame the Inquisition, with varying degrees of success.

When, in the 1830s, the Spanish crown finally moved to shut the Inquisition down, they didn't even bother to ask permission from Rome.

16 posted on 04/24/2021 3:06:01 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: ConservativeMind

I don’t know. I thought it was doing pretty well on that before this Pope started collaborating with China.


17 posted on 04/24/2021 3:17:32 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: sasportas
Until the 20th Century, amillenialism was the eschatological position of most Protestants, with Luther and Calvin holding to the same position as Augustine. Premillenialism was around, but a minority position. Dispensationalism, which sees Israel and the church as separate entities and rejects the idea of the church as the new Israel, is an expansion of the premillennial position. Dispensational theology first arose in the 19th Century. This theology only became the majority position among conservative Protestants in the mid-20th Century.

It must be remembered that Protestant countries persecuted Catholics, with the Irish Catholics reduced to near serfdom during the Protestant Ascendancy. Cromwell was to the Catholics of Ireland what Hitler was to the Slavs and Jews. Elizabeth I executed hundreds of Catholic clergy and laymen, some in a most cruel manner.

That being said, the Founding Fathers of this country were largely Christian believers, and belonged to denominations that were amillennial. Yet these men have is the unprecedented religious freedom enshrined in the First Amendment to the Constitution

18 posted on 04/24/2021 3:26:03 PM PDT by Wallace T. ( )
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To: CheshireTheCat

This is why they ended up in North Carolina


19 posted on 04/24/2021 3:27:59 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: Wallace T.

The Early Church Fathers, men like Justin Martyr, Irenaus, Tertullian were Premillennialists, likewise up to the fourth century.

These were “Historic” Premillennialists, as opposed to John Darby about 1500 years later, “the Father of Dispensationalism,” and his pretrib rapture. Which form of Premillennialism not “historic,” something Darby conjured up.

It was Origen the famous allegorist, who planted the seeds for Amillennialism, Augustine about a hundred years giving it official respectability. It becoming the official doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church. Which the Reformers carried with them when they left the Catholic Church.

Anabaptists were some of the first, in their zeal for restoring original beliefs (baptism by immersion, believers baptism - as opposed to infant baptism, etc.) to realize Amillennialism was not one of those original beliefs.

What you have done is identify all premillennialists with Dispensationalism. Not so, Historic Premill is not dispensationalist.

Actually, Historic Premills have more things in common with Protestant Amillennialists than against them. They are just as opposed to dispensationalim as you are, for instance. A spiritualized millennial chief thing we do NOT have in common.


20 posted on 04/24/2021 4:25:51 PM PDT by sasportas
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