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BREAKING: House Democrats Have Introduced A Resolution To Abolish The Electoral College – Here’s What It Would Take To Do It
Conservative US ^ | 04.15.2021 | Alex Hall

Posted on 04/15/2021 2:32:51 PM PDT by USA Conservative

The founders created the electoral college to make sure that large states did not dominate small ones in presidential elections, that power between Congress and state legislatures will be balanced, and that there would be checks and balances in the constitutional system.

This spring, numerous candidates for president expressed support for either abolishing or changing the Electoral College and today House Democrats have introduced a resolution to abolish the electoral college.

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The National Archives reports that over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College – without any becoming law.

In part, that is because the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment. But the Constitution and the courts have allowed the states some leeway to make changes to how their Electoral College representatives are chosen.

The current system for electing a U.S. president traces back to 1787. That’s when the Founding Fathers crafted a compromise between those who argued for the election of the president by a vote of Congress and the election of the president by a popular vote of qualified citizens. Debate renewed in 2016 after the election of the fifth U.S. president who won the presidency despite losing the popular vote.

The basis for the Electoral College is found in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, which spells out how the president shall be chosen. It gives each state “in such manner as the legislature thereof may direct” electors equal to its representation in Congress. The Constitution originally stipulated that the top vote-getter chosen by these electors would become president and the individual with the second-most votes would be vice president.

But after the presidential election in 1800 resulted in an acrimonious tie vote between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr, the 12th Amendment was ratified in 1804. It provides for separate votes for president and vice president and specified that those individuals must be from different states.

Fully overhauling the way the president is selected would take a Constitutional amendment, which would require the votes of two-thirds of the U.S. House of Representatives, two-thirds of the Senate, and three-fourths of the states.

Support of that magnitude has become rare for anything in a sharply divided United States. An amendment hasn’t been adopted since the 27th, in 1992, and one hasn’t been adopted relatively quickly since the 26th, which took 100 days from proposal to adoption in 1971.

A number of states have signed onto a pact that guarantees their Electoral College votes to the winner of the popular vote, no matter the outcome in their individual states.

The compact would only go into effect once the number of states involved surpasses the 270 Electoral College vote threshold that is required to win the presidency.

Today the pact has the support of states — and Washington D.C. — that total 181 electoral votes, largely those that have gone for Democrats in recent years.

However in short terms here’s what the Democrats would need to do to abolish the electoral college.

-To abolish the Electoral College would take 67 Senators, 290 Representatives, and 38 States.

-So, yeah, if all Democrats, plus a boatload of Republicans support it and can convince about 18 Republican states (like Texas and Florida) to ratify it, it can happen.

My message to the Dems: If you abolish the Electoral College then you might as well abolish the Senate and get rid of Statehood as State Sovereignty and the 10th Amendment becomes meaningless. This is just short-sighted.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: abolish; clickbait; democrats; elections; electoralcollege; fakenews; gop; howmanyblogsyouhave; twittertwatter; unconstitutional
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They are literally trying to throw everything at the wall and see what would stick in an effort to distract the GOP and the voters because we are getting hit from every direction with every radical piece of garbage that they ever dreamed of.

1 posted on 04/15/2021 2:32:51 PM PDT by USA Conservative
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To: USA Conservative

TxExit


2 posted on 04/15/2021 2:35:40 PM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: USA Conservative

Yeah and 13 on scotus.

good luck tards.


3 posted on 04/15/2021 2:38:10 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: USA Conservative

The consequences of a stolen election


4 posted on 04/15/2021 2:38:21 PM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: john316

I’m a Texan and I don’t want to exit. I want to fight these b@st@rds and save my country, but aside from all-out war I don’t know what to do. The GOP is only a very few seats from having control in both houses, but they have been worthless since the election.


5 posted on 04/15/2021 2:41:08 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Socialists are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: USA Conservative

DO IT

Secessions will happen faster


6 posted on 04/15/2021 2:41:28 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: USA Conservative

Not.
Happening.


7 posted on 04/15/2021 2:43:05 PM PDT by cranked
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To: USA Conservative
While we're at it, we should get rid of umpires and referees and settle all sports games by popular on-line vote.
Cheating is not only easier but encouraged.
Who needs stupid old fashioned rules anyway.

8 posted on 04/15/2021 2:44:24 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: john316

HIEXIT


9 posted on 04/15/2021 2:46:53 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: USA Conservative

All the dems want is permanent rule in which they force things down your throat that you’d never willingly vote for. Thank you Karl Marx.


10 posted on 04/15/2021 2:48:49 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Regulator

You are WRONG.

YES......THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN....

BUT THESE ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF RHINOS FOR DECADES.


11 posted on 04/15/2021 2:48:50 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: USA Conservative
In part, that is because the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment.

Nothing to see here. Move along. But if by chance the Electoral College is eliminated without a constitutional amendment, you should exercise your second amendment rights to correct the problem.

12 posted on 04/15/2021 2:51:13 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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Let’s see. 2/3 vote aye in both houses and then 3/4 of the states to ratify it ..... Don’t think we will see it happen any time soon.

Of course they could get 2/3 of the State legislatures to call for a Constitutional Convention. And again that doesn’t look likely with all the red states.

Not going to get excited about it quite yet.


13 posted on 04/15/2021 2:52:30 PM PDT by ImpBill (The Republic is circiling the drain at an ever increasing velocity. Thanks GOP.)
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To: ImpBill

Or they can just get it passed in the house with a simple majority and get Kamala Harris to cast the 51st vote in the Senate. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Democrats tried to do that.


14 posted on 04/15/2021 2:53:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: USA Conservative

They have already proven they can unilaterally change/ignore state election law.

If they just declare the electoral college abolished, who is going to stop them?


15 posted on 04/15/2021 3:00:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Anti-racism looks suspiciously like racism.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They want to go full Communist in the first year.


16 posted on 04/15/2021 3:01:43 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Yea umm..whatever

I believe it’s also “RINOs” for the contraction, not the rather large ungulate from family Rhinocerotidae


17 posted on 04/15/2021 3:03:32 PM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: USA Conservative
What would they want to do after conservatives won the popular vote?

There is no end to this bunch, except one and they are pushing us closer to it everyday....

18 posted on 04/15/2021 3:03:33 PM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Hazwaste

“they have been worthless since the election.”


Let’s be truthful here. They were worthless BEFORE the
election.


19 posted on 04/15/2021 3:05:35 PM PDT by V K Lee (Resist, we will! Remember, we must!)
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To: USA Conservative

Why not just make it illegal for everyone to vote, except illegal immigrant children with COVID.....2 votes if they have MS-13 tattoos!


20 posted on 04/15/2021 3:06:02 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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