Posted on 02/24/2021 7:39:27 PM PST by Peter ODonnell
Would this list also include K Harris ?
Blessings
Don Jr. can run for the senate he needs to move to Kentucky and take out McConnell!! He can run for congress and be voted Speaker in 2022 there must be an opening in FL. for congress!!
I think quite a few FRiends got the point, by perhaps poking Q anon with a stick of satire, we also advance the concept that its well-meaning objectives need to be advanced rather than relegated to some never-to-be-realized always receding future date.
I would not want anyone to think I don’t see the gravity of the situation. I just wish that Q Anon actually spoke for an existing and able group of people working on an actual plan, and was not (as I suspect) just somebody’s idea of wishful thinking about things that ought to happen.
That person is right to believe that certain things ought to happen. My question is, by what agency will they happen?
(random cat picture = counter revolution ? = not feeling it here)
Seriously, why do non-Q folk care so much about attacking Q folk, who are genuine patriots, who love Trump, and who have legitimately done a ton to uncover the illegal intelligence operation which actually runs our government.
I can't tell you what the deal with Q is. But I know enough doesn't make sense that you can't criticize someone for believing in it. Biden is not getting saluted as he comes off his plane, which is not getting the callsign AF1 when it picks him up, as 4Chan has noted Trump got. Nancy Pelosi was escorted by some weird woman who rudely barked at her "Don't say nothing!" and Pelosi meekly replied, "I won't." DC is ringed in fences and razor wire as we have thousands of armed troops locking it down for no visible reason - and Trump ordered it first. TO say nothing of a blatantly hacked and rigged election which likely illegally installed a known Chinese asset with pedophilia problems in the Presidency, with full complicity of multiple government structures.
The push is on to deplatform everybody and prosecute randos who were invited in the Capitol by Police and who acted like a museum tour, yet Q, who everyone views as a terrorist inciting violence, with multiple people doing crazy stuff in his name, is totally uninvestigated, and remains anonymous and not in any way a target. That is weird. If he was some rando, he'd have been frogmarched out by now and made an example of.
To say nothing of the close surveillance a lot of us have seen show up when we got involved in political activism, like what NY Governor Patterson, and Antonin Scalia, and Michael Hastings, and Tom Bauerle, and a ton of others described. Believe it or not, I have still got it, and I have seen four others on this site, and probably a hundred on 4Chan all say they were under it. My own site has about ten who have piped up about being under it. Bill Binney, the legendary NSA spook played by Nick Cage in Snowden's movie, actually said they used a drone to shoot some energy beam at his house, and blow a hole in copper shielding he installed in his walls to protect himself. And we still don;t know who did the sonic attacks in Cuba, which were also used on a Trump staffer and her dog right on the street IN DC.
You can see all of that documented in the news in links I have aggregated at :
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance
There is undoubtedly very bad stuff going on in this nation. Wasting time punching right, no matter what you think of Q-folk, is a waste of effort better spent elsewhere, which only serves to divide us.
I could add that events might unfold that make Q Anon seem more credible than it likely seems to many right now, but that would be more of a lucky guess than an insider’s foreknowledge of a plan of action, just as if I said, I bet Jesus Christ will return to the earth in March and solve all these problems, and in fact He did, then I would have made a lucky guess since I have no actual knowledge of that possible outcome other than reading in the Bible about a very similar world into which Jesus Christ makes a second appearance on earth. I think Q Anon is sort of like that kind of thinking, it is based on something but not the kind of insider knowledge that would guarantee it was onto something.
The danger with both concepts (trust the plan and the second coming) is that if you sit around waiting because somebody else has things covered, and that’s not the case, then your own potential efforts are not placed into operation. I think that’s the down side of Q Anon and “trust the plan,” and whoever started it bears responsibility if the plan we are asked to trust does not actually exist. Lucky break for them if it does exist outside of their sphere of knowledge. You’re on firmer ground with second coming predictions if you leave out a specific date, that’s something we have been reliably informed will happen although nobody knows when.
My response to supporters of Q Anon is along these lines, we have tolerated it for quite a while and want to believe that somebody somewhere has a plan, but there’s a natural tendency in these urgent times to ask this question — is there really any foundation to Q Anon or is it merely wishful thinking combined with some facts of interest, I am not “opposed to Q Anon” but opposed to waiting around for some non-existent option to be activated.
I would challenge Q Anon supporters with this question — by what date would you agree that if nothing significant happens to verify “trust the plan” would it be reasonable to suppose that Q Anon was bogus?
Are we supposed to entertain the idea that Q Anon is somehow compatible with a Trump presidential run in 2024?
If so, count me out because action is going to be needed long before that.
By the way, that was probably Nancy Pelosi’s campaign manager, it would explain how she gets people to vote for her. (saying don’t say anything to her)
Also, I think this line of inquiry is worth pursuing ...
If as we suspect a coup has taken place, then what is one thing that coup organizers do NOT want to see patriotic Americans doing?
Obvious answer, meeting to plan a resistance.
What steps would discourage them from meeting?
(1) The COVID19 lockdown conditions might.
(2) Widespread belief that a group was already on the case behind the scenes, so you might just get in their way or be wasting your time.
In the above rather short list, (2) could (or maybe not) describe Q Anon. So one theory about it which is certainly not new to me is that it represents sophisticated disinformation. You might want to think about that. If there was some active and able group behind the scenes, why didn’t they act sooner and with greater effectiveness when they had access to some of the levers of power? How on earth is the current situation an advantage for them?
To read again.
I think you are missing what Q-supporters are. There are wild fans, who hung on every word, and assumed Q was giving hard facts everyone could take to the bank. But most knew better.
Smart Q folks didn’t think that way. Q was interesting. He made several predictions he could only have made if he was an insider. Pegging McCain’s death to the minute, 30 days out was one. No way that was coincidence. Add in Trump pussy-footing with him and his followers, and he was something interesting which was going to do something.
I always assumed a lot of what he said was bunk. He gave out just enough good info to make it clear he was an insider and get cred, but then he used that cred to field disinfo and muddy the waters.
Was there ever a plan? It is possible not as people describe it. It is possible his entire purpose was putting out smoke, and getting a metric ton of people to accept something very evil was in charge of our government, and nothing was impossible.
We now accept our election was hacked. But that required a conspiracy-theorists mind to accept so many could be involved. Like it or not Q helped with that.
We now accept a lot of people in government are blackmailed. But that requires intelligence operations, and surveillance to ID vulnerable young girls, and groomers for young girls, and young girls in the network, and civilian assets spread out in society and government to run cover.
And people now believe it all after seeing Epstein not only get caught, but get whacked as well. He was killed in a prison which had made it a priority to keep him alive, and they needed a second bite at the apple after the first time failed. And we know they did it. Q helped with that.
Many people who follow Q just think he is interesting, and some sort of organized operation, probably to open minds, and put out smoke so some enemy has no idea what is going on.
If that was his purpose, mission accomplished. Most even here accept Epstein was a foreign funded blackmail operation targeting our leaders, there are probably many more, including full on pedophile networks and blackmail operations, Epstein was whacked, our elections are hacked and our votes mean nothing, and our current President is a pedophile Chinese asset installed by a foreign conspiracy which has an extensive network of American civilian agents in our society loyal to it, and the entire media is a foreign intel propaganda outfit supporting the conspiracy.
As far as I am concerned, that is one hell of an accomplishment. As for all the other weirdness I cited above, who knows what else could happen?
Why do you want to set some day that when it comes, we all sit around and say we all lost? Hell, everybody here should go down to the local Russian consulate and ask for a Russian private intel outfit which can help them expose illegal surveillance in the US, and hire one to do a pole-tech survey and then sue utilities to find out what organization put affected poles under a flag. Who knows what will come of that.
Nobody wants a Negative Nancy in their foxhole. This fight will never end.
>Widespread belief that a group was already on the case behind the scenes, so you might just get in their way or be wasting your time.
The problem is you don;t know what Q was. It never said, “Do nothing.” Q said here is a conspiracy I can tell you is out there, but I can’t give you proof. So I need you to pour through news and open sources, and assemble the proof, and then create quickly digestible memes, and then form social media accounts, and share the memes and the news stories and factual sources with everyone, to make them aware of the conspiracy.
If you had monitored social media, you’d have seen Q stuff was everywhere, and Conspiracized everyone it touched into seeing we have a problem in this country.
Q was overall a net gain, if you took part in it. It is why we accept totally our election was hacked, and the media couldn’t run a counter-operation to convince people that was a conspiracy theory. The only people bitching about Q are the ones who never looked at it themselves, or got their understanding of it through the media.
You are spinning your wheels here on something which doesn’t matter. Instead, go research what the CIA did with MK Ultra up in that Canadian depression clinic, and get a grasp of what the forces we face are capable of.
The only thing Q did was to make a list of White supremacists for new j/k mis-administration!
You all better get eyes in the back of your heads and lawyer up:-)
Now you’re talking ;)
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