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VANITY: Looking for chemistry advice

Posted on 02/18/2021 7:58:44 AM PST by numberonepal

I'm looking for someone that knows chemistry to let me know if there are any adverse reactions when salt and silicone are in contact for extended periods of time. Any help will be greatly appreciated.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: salt; silicone
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1 posted on 02/18/2021 7:58:44 AM PST by numberonepal
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To: little jeremiah

Ping to you in case you know someone or know the answer.


2 posted on 02/18/2021 7:59:12 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: numberonepal

“Salt and Silicone (2010) - 25 min - Short - Comedy
A dark comedy that explores one man’s mixed feelings
on his girlfriend’s desire to get breast implants.”


3 posted on 02/18/2021 8:02:30 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: numberonepal

Off the top of my head salt yes silicone no.


4 posted on 02/18/2021 8:03:43 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: numberonepal

What did you do?


5 posted on 02/18/2021 8:04:19 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: numberonepal

Look up sodium silicide


6 posted on 02/18/2021 8:04:31 AM PST by jonsie
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To: numberonepal

Doubtful. Silicone is highly inert, and much scuba and other dive equipment is made from silicone rubber.


7 posted on 02/18/2021 8:04:52 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: numberonepal

Ask Walter White.


8 posted on 02/18/2021 8:05:48 AM PST by real saxophonist (The mouse doesn't understand why the cheese is free.)
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To: Deaf Smith
What did you do?

Nothing yet. I have a product idea I'm mulling over that would be something similar to sea salt inhalers. I'm thinking of shelf life for packaging. I'd prefer not to use Pyrex as product shrinkage would be an issue.

9 posted on 02/18/2021 8:08:39 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: real saxophonist

LOL. I’m NOT making meth.


10 posted on 02/18/2021 8:09:19 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: numberonepal

Is there any electricity involved also?

In general, silicones are resistant to many chemicals, including salt. High voltage insulators may age rapidly in salt water, while they are energized.

OTOH, if the question is will long term contact with silicone effect salt for human consumption, I have no idea, but would take the position that it is guilty until proven innocent. Never do experimental chemistry inside your own body.


11 posted on 02/18/2021 8:09:28 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: numberonepal

Are we making a fish tank or getting breast implants?


12 posted on 02/18/2021 8:09:50 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: numberonepal

I’m thinking of shelf life for packaging.


Use HDPE.


13 posted on 02/18/2021 8:10:21 AM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: numberonepal

I take it you mean silicone elastomer? If so are you asking about the uncured polymer or cured polymer? If the polymer is fully cured there will be no reaction but silicone elastomers are more porous than others, so a salt solution will enter a about one hundred nanometers into the surface.

If you add the salt, I a assuming you mean NaCl, to the uncured polymer it will not dissolve. You must, however, be careful not to ruin the catalyst for curing silicone. Check to see if yours has a peroxide or platinum catalyst. Then check online to see if your salt will ruin the catalyst. The phenomenon is called catalyst poisoning.

Finally, most household silicones such as caulk are condensation cured, usually losing acetic acid upon exposure to air. In this case you MAY produce some sodium acetate and chlorine gas.


14 posted on 02/18/2021 8:12:23 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: nesnah

HDPE is a better choice for long term storage. Silicone is quite expensive in comparison and can undergo degradation over time. Dow Chemical Corporation has a white paper on the topic.


15 posted on 02/18/2021 8:15:18 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: real saxophonist
Ask Walter White.


16 posted on 02/18/2021 8:15:37 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: packagingguy

I read this purely to see how long it would take for an expert to answer. As with so many special topics on FR, it did not take long.


17 posted on 02/18/2021 8:16:02 AM PST by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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To: numberonepal

As someone with a degree in chemistry, I found your question interesting. So I looked it up. According to the chart linked below, silicone has a high chemical resistance to sodium chloride (common salt). It has a resistance rating of 1 (best) on a 1 to 4 scale.

This might not be the definitive answer. But it’s a place to start.

https://mykin.com/rubber-chemical-resistance-chart-5


18 posted on 02/18/2021 8:16:42 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: numberonepal

Beyond my area, but I’m sure others will know. Salt in solution or dry salt?


19 posted on 02/18/2021 8:18:18 AM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: numberonepal

Stay away from the
Brown Acid!


20 posted on 02/18/2021 8:25:16 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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