Posted on 02/17/2021 5:46:47 AM PST by Onthebrink
Rahm Emanuel, former White House chief of staff to President Barack Obama, famously said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal, “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that [is] it is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not before.”
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“WAR” is the correct choice of words. I will be a war. BMA
Go to post 54 for a list of gun control measures Biden will probably enact.
Obviously drawn up by someone who does not have a clue. And here I thought hollow points were bad.
Well most LEO body armor (unless privately pirchased) will only stop pistol rounds, knives and rim fire rifle rounds. Sadly few pop for the extra department $$ to upgrade. SWAT will have it, but not beat cops.
But wearing body armor that’ll stop a “deer rifle” round all day is rough, especially in the heat or sitting in a vehicle.
They’re outgunned and out ammoed.
Not sure if I’m accurate, but I’ve always thought a FMJ round was designed more to incapacitate, where as a hollow point was designed to do more internal damage.
Some say that in on the battlefield it’s better to severely wound the enemy, rather than kill, because of all the logistics required to attempt to save the wounded. Not sure if that’s accurate, just something I read somewhere.
The people we fight don’t care about their wounded; they leave it up to us to take care of them.
FMJ will produce a narrow wound channel, whereas an expanding bullet (hollow point generically) will produce a much wider one. Also a FMJ delivers/transfers less energy to the target. Hollow points are designed to hit and kill in one properly placed shot, due to maximum possible physical damage. It’s why you hunt game with hollow points- you don’t wound the animal and have it suffer as it slowly dies.
My experience hunting with 308 rounds with expanding bullets in roughly 160 grain weight is that if you hit a deer in the right area of the thoracic cavity, it will drop to the ground, dead right there. Sometimes they’ll manage to go 50 yards and collapse. But that’s been rare. And yes, that round does go through and through most every time. Entry wound hard to spot, exit wound easy to spot.
The biggest variable is the aspect ratio of the animal when you shoot it.
And for clarity, a target does not fly backwards like in the movies. They just fall to the forest floor. DRT.
Trivia: after you shoot a deer, you can’t close its big brown doe eyes. 🤪
Net: 308 HP BT ~160gr drops em right where they stood.
Hollow points also ricochet less, and frankly since they tend to lose so much energy on the first target they hit, you don’t have the issue of stray rounds going through three walls, a panel of glass and then hitting someone.
That seems to be common wisdom in the military. It did not apply so much to the Vietnam War, though because severely wounded commie soldiers were mostly left to die on the battlefield. That would probably be true of communist armies in any war. Communists in VN would send the first wave against a SpecForces camp unarmed. Their job was to die on the wire so that the armed troops had a path over the wire.
They will need more troops keeping the idiots in DC contained.
FMJ rounds primarily wound, that’s why they are forbidden for hunting.
Some years ago, I think in Canada, some idiot shot up a playground with an AK47 type gun loaded with FMJ rounds. A lot of injuries, but few deaths.
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