Posted on 02/13/2021 8:29:44 AM PST by bray
Numerous media reports (including NYT and WP) reported she died at at a local hospital after being transported there by ambulance. You may question that, too. I wonder whether she was DOA and pronounced dead after arrival or was still hanging onto life and died in the hospital, but that really does not matter.
You are welcome to believe what you believe. I understand trust in the media and our institutions has broken down, and for good reason. I sympathize with your distrust. I happen to believe she is dead. It’s a free country, and we are both free to believe what we believe.
Did you watch the video? The gun wasn’t even pointed at her.
Do you mean the video already posted here
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3932294/posts
And here
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3932599/posts
And here
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3932601/posts
And here
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3932002/posts
That video? Notice how it’s all spliced together in a jerky fashion with fast forwards, repeats, etc? How the “line” drawn purporting to show the line of fire zooms across another splice? You never see the gun and Ashli Babbitt at the same time, do you? You never see the line drawn from the gun to her all in the same frame, do you? Also consider the angle.
I think that video is hogwash. On one of those other threads, someone posted that it reminded him of those ridiculous 911 Was Faked propaganda videos.
There’s the “fake plastic Hollywood glass” he goes on about. In reality it is plain old acrylic glass, either the “bulletproof” type or “shatter proof” type. I could go on and on.
You believe it was an elaborate hoax, involving lots and lots of actors and fake blood and fake police, fake medics and so forth at the scene, more paid actors pretending to be her relatives and friends giving quotes to the media after the “fake” shooting. More members of this conspiracy somehow created a Twitter account going back years, etc., etc. You question every little thing reported in the media, but trust this video.
I question the video. The fast-talking narrator is constantly telling you what you to see. Constantly reading people’s minds for you (”she’s looking over to the left like she’s waiting for something”). Captions telling you what people are saying — but is that really what they are saying, or all they said? Maybe that lady was saying “they’re all acting like animals” but the “like animals” part got cut off. Who knows?
I don’t automatically believe everything I read in the news, but I surely do not buy this video.
I think we will have to politely agree to disagree.
this was fake as the election and being hidden by fake news. Nothing you have seen in the last year and a half was real, and you are living in a world which has been one faked event after another
starting with the Covid and its treatments. It is time to question everything these Communists are doing from the virus to the war on oil.
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The great thing about some authors is that their writing just gets better and better as they progress. This is what we have just seen from bray.
If you follow this story from O'biden's being given the democrat nomination killing off ol' Bernie and a few other wannabes to the shooting of Ashli you can't help but notice a few significant events.
To begin with who would have the guts to design a campaign where you hide the candidate in the basement? On top of that you use an aged criminal politician with severe mental problems who can't put one word in from of another. Than you keep him from ever coming out of the basement confident of knowing the ending before it happens. I doubt we have seen this happen before or will see it again!
My bet is they thought they knew the ending before it happened. The dems are about as arrogant a political party as you can get. They thought they could get the American voters to buy into a win from a candidate who never came out of the basement. They bet a couple of poorly designed debates and a few rallies of 6,8 or 12 people were enough to get a win.
Meanwhile, his opponent, D.J.Trump had rallies of 30-50k over and over and any thinking person would assume that what actually happened did happen. What actually happened was that Trump won going away! He carried every state including Calif. and NY going away. No telling what his vote tally was. Could have been 85-90 million (those that keep saying 74 mill should be shot). This was the biggest one sided election ever.
Except that Trump let it go too far.
He knew that an algorhytm had been installed in the Dominion systems run from Germany that allowed O'biden some 22% more votes than he got. Trump knew the machines had been hacked since their creation by Dominion for Hugo Chavez in 2000. That's what they were designed for! An election system that was easily manipulated and it was. All elections since have been hacked by one side or the other.
The mass/landslide vote for Trump was so big he was winning anyway even with a 22% penalty! So the big guns in Rome at the US embassy run by the company were called in and between a CIA hacker an expert out of MI6 and one other premier hacker they created a new algorhytm that was so bizarre O'biden had to win and he did. Of course to get the intel back to Germany they had to use a satellite created by the Leonardo corp.of Italy. This particular sattelite was owned,30% by the Italian govt. and run by the Vatican. Everyone was caught and are paying a steep price.
The final hack was enough for a Biden victory. Along with some other minor manual flips done at the usual sites of Detroit,Philly,Atlanta and the rest of the criminal DNC headquarters where votes were first created than counted. It all helped. But, the real damage was done electronically.
Trump knew if he outed the dems and stopped the cheat before they won he would not have the evidence he needed to jail all these commie-criminals. So he let it go on thinking afterwards he could present his evidence, show the world what happened, and remain in office.
Little did he know that the Illuminati already had those possibilities covered by making sure that: no one would even look at the evidence. With no one looking at the evidence the dems were able to claim that: there was no evidence of fraud which technically was true since no one was allowed to see it.!! Also if they could control the media 100% which they did and force facebook youtube and twitter to kick anyone off who got too close to the truth they had an outside shot at pulling off one of the greatest cons ever.
So far they have but it's never over til it's over.
That’s fine, why does nobody hit the floor when the shot goes off and someone falls to the ground? Why does nobody call 911 and real paramedics come to help save her life? Why do they just have some Antifa paramedic who does nothing and where is the wound or blood?
I don’t believe anything the media tells me and I don’t believe this. Nobody is telling you what to believe but who has the most to gain from her being dead?
I wonder if an independent autopsy has been done sure would like to see one.I’m not even sure you could figure that one out even if you were on the scene.
Lots of questions about why she was there to begin with what motivated her to be so close to the scene,lots of stuff that does not make sense here.
That’s what bothered me from the start and I wrote a tribute to her. Why was she in the room rather than at the rally? It makes no sense.
Autopsy, you cannot even get an obituary or death certificate. She was conveniently cremated and the family doesn’t want any publicity. Silence. Where is the police report?
According to many witness reports, and video, those in the immediate area saw the gun and were shouting about the gun and shouting to get back. Also according to witness reports, those somewhat behind her were alarmed and rushed forward hoping to pull people back away from danger, but too late.
Those nearby could see she was shot by the security guy. Again, according to witness reports, the security guy with the gun warned them to get back, and everyone but Ashli did step back. Why would they all hit the floor? It wasn't like some nut was spraying gunfire everywhere. The tactical team were just behind the bunch near the doors and immediately took control of the situation. Why should there have been a panic, with everyone hitting the floor? Because FTVNG says so? Because people must behave as FTVNG says, no matter how irrational, or they are all crisis actors?
Why does nobody call 911 and real paramedics come to help save her life? Why do they just have some Antifa paramedic who does nothing and where is the wound or blood?
Have a look at the photo in post #90 on this very thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3934211/posts?page=90#90
See links here, also provided on this very thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3934211/posts?page=31#31
There appears to be plenty of blood. Others have pointed out she fell backwards onto her backpack, hence no pool of blood. Fast-Talking Video Narrator Guy (FTVNG) says it was all fake blood, anyway, so what is the point?
Why should bystanders try to call 911 when there are cops with working comms standing right there? People in the crowd just outside the Capitol said in interviews they could not make or receive calls on their cellphones because the net was "overloaded" or "jammed" anyway. But back to the real point, would you call 911 if cops were already on the scene? Seriously?
According to media reports, real paramedics did try to save her life, and real EMTs transported her to an ambulance on a guerney. There are photos of her on the guerney being tended by real EMT in links provided in post #31 on this thread. But the video with FTVNG does not show any of that, and you only believe that video.
Try watching this video. It is not spliced and diced with FTVNG telling to what to see and what to think:
https://ordinary-times.com/2021/01/09/video-the-annotated-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt/
I don’t believe anything the media tells me and I don’t believe this. Nobody is telling you what to believe but who has the most to gain from her being dead?
You don't believe anything the media says. I don't believe everything the media says. We differ there, and no amount of discussion will change that. No one is telling you what to believe (except for FTVNG). You believe FTVNG and his video. I don't believe that sliced-and-diced hash of a video. I don't believe FTVNG. I don't believe there was a far-reaching grand conspiracy to fake the whole thing with fake blood and an enormous cast of "crisis actors". Again, we will simply have to politely agree to disagree.
I don't blame you for not buying the "Ashli Babbit's legal team" thing. I don't buy it either. Ashli Babbit is dead and can't hire a legal team. They do not identify themselves. None of her family members have vouched for them. It could be anyone behind those Twitter posts, grifters, curious people, perhaps well-intentioned people looking for justice, perhaps FBI looking for ID of certain people. Who knows? We can agree on that one.
I get you want to believe nobody would do such a horrendous thing, but they did.
She was there because she was a fanatical Q follower, as evidenced by her long history on Twitter including photos of herself in Q gear.
She posted this about Jan 6:
"Nothing will stop us…they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours…dark to light!” Babbitt wrote.
From what I can gather, according to Q the "storm" is when Superman Trump somehow manages to have the hordes of child-raping, adrenochrome-sucking elites arrested and/or executed, changing dark to light. She was all hopped up on Q and thought she was saving the world that day. So tragic.
She also posted a video of herself walking to the Capitol that day:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFonozfVzHs
Our own Travis posted a while back that she was likely sized up by antifa agitators in the crowd as an easy mark and egged into doing what she did. In the video I linked in my last post, you can see and hear John Sullivan (aka "BLM Guy") inciting them to break through the doors. I won't repeat his filthy language here, but he was certainly egging them on.
She was there because the poor woman was obsessed with Q and wanted to be at the forefront of " the storm". She wanted to be a heroine.
She had a history of impulsive and reckless behavior as evidenced by the charges and RO filed against her a few years ago. Her friends and neighbors and former colleagues in the military described her as "boisterous" and "a real firecracker" and "super patriotic". She appears to have been very enthusiastic about her beliefs, a real heart-on-her-sleeve type of person. There's nothing wrong with that. But in this case, it led to her death. She was an easy mark.
It is what it is.
Did you watch the video I posted?
Not all witnesses were Antifa and BLM. There were genuine Trump supporters there, Q followers, some unstable people from the fringes of the far, far, far right. There was a sprinkling of Antifa agitators (and Antifa types), and of course there was “BLM” Guy”. In my opinion, “BLM Guy” is a psychopath who gets off on inciting other people to violence. So there he is, doing his thing, and poor Ashli fell for it.
There are plenty of media reports, including articles posted on FR, that a number of those in the Capitol were, in fact, Trump supporters. Creepers have even posted that some are well known locally for being avid Trump supporters. Some of these were the witnesses. But you don’t believe that. You believe everyone in the Capitol that day were Antifa, BLM, or paid crisis actors.That is your prerogative.
BLM guy was right there because that’s what he came for: inciting Trump supporters to violence and getting it on video. Of course he was right there.
Freepers, not Creepers. Darn spellcheck.
Why is there no official report of the shooting? We don’t know if she was hit in the neck, shoulder or chest let alone death certificates. Why has Nancy not released an official report of the shooting inside the Capitol?
If she were a black drug addict shot by a white cop there would be a second by second report but an unarmed girl and silence, why no official report? What are you hiding Nancy?
That video was found to be made an hour or two before the rally began. It would be easy to manufacture a facebook to make her into a Quanan cultist. Why was she the only Trumpster in the room? Because she was an Antifa actor.
Until there is not official reports the shooting is most likely faked.
Just proved the facts about a poor murder victim and her family.
A NJ man not feet from her showed her blood on his person and noted he could have just as easily been shot and killed.
That is a fact. Stop pushing a shameful conspiracy for profit.
Don’t be angry with the truth. The truth will set you free from ugly disgraceful conspiracy garbage for clicks.
You’re welcome.
JUSTICE FOR ASHLI!
Did you watch the video I posted? It is very short. If you are so interested in learning the truth, surely you would want to see that video.
Indeed, an official report would be helpful. All we have so far are news stories telling us that a preliminary investigation concluded the officer who shot her should not be criminally charged.
Another poster already explained to you why no death certificate. Besides, I don’t recall ever seeing a death certificate reported by media or even blogs after someone was shot and killed, whether by police or someone else. It seems odd you expect her death certificate to be plastered all over the media.
An autopsy report would be nice, too. It has not been released as of yet, apparently. Autopsy reports are not automatically reported after a shooting death, and often are not released for some time even when the incident was highly controversial and a huge deal in the media (George Floyd, for example). As there are no criminal charges filed, it may never be released.
There are news stories giving the Capitol Police Officer’s point of view:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/capitol-police-shooting-ashli-babbitt.html
What is Nancy hiding? Maybe she wants to hide the fact she denied, via her House Sergeant-at-Arms, the Capitol Police Chief’s requests for National Guard backup before and during the protest. McConnell, via his Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, did the same.
Read all about it here:
And here
So, instead of looking at what Nancy is really trying to hide, there is all this carrying on over fake blood and crisis actors. Poor Ashli believed in all those Q conspiracy theories about thousands of children being held by a vast pedophile cabal of elites and tortured to death to extract adenochrome from them, yadayadayada, how Trump was going to save the day and rescue the children and punish the evildoers. Now there are all these conspiracy theories about her death.
So sad. No one is looking at what Nancy is really hiding, but chasing after this nonsense instead.
Until there is not official reports the shooting is most likely faked.
According to you, everything is fake except Fast-Talking Video Narrator Guy's fake cobbled-together video. Have it your way. This has become beyond tiresome, and I am done here.
For the last time, let's politely agree to disagree. Have a Blessed Sunday. It is a good day the Lord has made for us. Let us walk in all such good works as He has prepared for us.
He showed fake blood and nobody is getting money from asking questions. Where can you find an official report of what happened? Aren’t all of those people witnesses to a shooting? Where is the official report Nancy?
The videos he cobbled together were what was on the internet filmed by a BLM supporter and that is all he had. CNN did not bring their own cameramen so that is all he had to work with which he got excellent video, maybe too excellent.
I am pretty convinced since I have been looking into this for over a week. Until there is official paperwork then it was faked.
Happy Sunday.
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