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Senate Is Playing A Dangerous Game With The 14th Amendment: Rage and Hate Have Overwhelmed Reason
Jonathan Turley: CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, FREE SPEECH, POLITICS ^ | 02/01/2021 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 02/01/2021 11:54:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Below is my column in the Hill on the new push to bar former President Donald Trump under the 14th Amendment in a censure resolution. Various commentators and groups have called for dozens of Republican politicians to be barred from office in the same way, including a “how to guide” for “disqualifying insurrectionists and rebels” under the 14th Amendment. Some have even added a call to put the entire Republican Party on a Domestic Terror list. Rage again has overwhelmed reason. The suggested use of the 14th Amendment raises serious constitutional concerns and could present a compelling basis for a court challenge if actually passed. Indeed, Trump could prevail in court shortly before the 2024 presidential race.

Here is the column:

After a vote suggesting that about half of the Senate has constitutional or prudential concerns over the trial of former President Trump, members are discussing censure as an alternative. I previously supported a censure resolution, but this is censure with a twist. Senator Tim Kaine would add yet another controversy to an array of constitutional issues by electorally barring Trump under the 14th Amendment. With the snap impeachment and a retroactive Senate trial, the country needs another constitutional controversy like Wall Street needs another Reddit stock tip.

Censure is not mentioned in the Constitution because it is a resolution with the view of Congress. Such a statement could allow for bipartisan condemnation. It is also now seen as a type of shadow impeachment. A Senate trial could work to the advantage of Trump if it ends in acquittal. For the first time ever, the House used a snap impeachment and sent the Senate no record to support its article. As before, the Senate can refuse to call witnesses and vote on the record or lack thereof, meaning a brief trial and about half of the Senate rejecting the case. It has led some members back to censure as the effective substitute for conviction.

Part of the controversy of this snap impeachment is using a trial solely for electoral disbarment. The Constitution refers to the trial as to decide on whether to remove “the president” and so that leads some of us to doubt any retroactive trial, while disbarment is an optional punishment for after removal. The Constitution limits the power of the Senate in impeachment trials to “removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.”

Retroactive trials remain a close issue even for most scholars who have reached conclusions on either side. Now Kaine and others suggest the Senate can avoid the need for the trial but achieve the same result by a majority vote on censure. At issue is the 14th Amendment section that bars people from holding office if they “have engaged in insurrection or rebellion” or “given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

According to Kaine, his censure resolution would make two findings “that it was an insurrection and that President Trump gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists.” While this would be a workaround of an unattainable impeachment conviction, it would be defended as part of the authority of Congress over any citizen under the 14th Amendment.

This has never been used to disqualify a former president, and it is not clear Congress has carte blanche authority to bar a citizen from office by majority vote. The Constitution refers to individuals determined to have engaged in treasonous acts. Under this theory, it would be relatively easy to disqualify someone from office and declare him a traitor, but difficult to lift their electoral disbarment. Further, it would also flip the burden of the supermajority vote from a protection for the accused in impeachment trials into a barrier for those disenfranchised by Congress.

Kaine is open about his motivation for “an alternative that would impose, in my view, a similar consequence” without a trial and supermajority vote. But that is why this tactic is so dangerous. The party in control could bar dozens of its opponents from running for federal office. Some Democrats are now demanding such action against Republicans who challenged the election of Joe Biden. This is common in authoritarian countries such as Iran, where leaders often bar their opponents from office.

Kaine could be making a case for Trump in claiming the 14th Amendment as an alternative to conviction at trial. Academics have echoed this view, and some insist Congress clearly has authority to bar Trump from office. Columbia University professor Eric Foner says the 14th Amendment “is very applicable” and “would only require a majority vote in Congress.” Such statements leave little doubt that the motivation is to achieve the penalty of impeachment without the burden of a conviction.

It would be a first impression for a court, but Trump would have a credible case. If he were to prevail, he could cite the decision as vindication and perhaps enhance his claims of being an establishment target. When the 14th Amendment was ratified, it was easy to see its applicability to those who swore allegiance to the confederacy or fought for it. A court today would face the issue of whether Congress has total discretion to make such a finding or if, as I believe, it is subject to judicial review.

The Framers, with their ban on bills of attainder, had opposed individual punishment meted out by Congress. Such bills were used in Great Britain to punish individuals through Parliament rather than the courts. Years ago I had litigated one of the few successful bills of attainder cases in striking down the Elizabeth Morgan Act, which punished my client with stripping him of parental rights. This proposed censure resolution would achieve the same purpose to mete out punishment by popular vote.

Using the 14th Amendment is too clever by half. Our raging politics blinds many to what could be a dangerous precedent of barring opponents from office. When many people call for blacklists and retaliation against anyone “complicit” with Trump in the last four years, such a power would be ripe for abuse. There is an alternative, which is a censure resolution that can garner overwhelming support as a bipartisan condemnation rather than a circumvention of impeachment. We can then leave the Constitution alone, and leave the future of Trump to voters and to history.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; bidenvoters; constitution; impeachment; senate
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1 posted on 02/01/2021 11:54:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Cartoon is inaccurate; Droolin’ Joe fully concurs, to the extent he even is aware it’s happening.


2 posted on 02/01/2021 11:59:52 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The cartoon is wrong. Plugs the Pedo is the one gleefully nailing STILL THE PRESIDENT Trump to the cross.


3 posted on 02/01/2021 12:01:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: DuncanWaring

You beat me. ;-D


4 posted on 02/01/2021 12:01:33 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump is 74 now.

If he won in 2024, he’d take office at age 78 (Biden’s age) and leave office at age 82.

Nobody as old as Biden (or as old as Trump would be in 2025) should ever be President.


5 posted on 02/01/2021 12:04:03 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

RE: Nobody as old as Biden (or as old as Trump would be in 2025) should ever be President.

Agree. I am now partial to Kristi Noem, Governor of South Dakota.


6 posted on 02/01/2021 12:05:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

7 posted on 02/01/2021 12:06:25 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: SeekAndFind

If they had a case against Trump, he’d already have been indicted.

The Democrats are only proving that second-rate and third-rate people like themselves should never have first-rate power.


8 posted on 02/01/2021 12:07:01 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

I would like to see DeSantis in 2024 with Noem in 2030 the way things look now.


9 posted on 02/01/2021 12:08:30 PM PST by heshtesh
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To: fieldmarshaldj

77 seconds.

Gotta be quick.


10 posted on 02/01/2021 12:10:02 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just like the first impeachment nothing has changed it’s even more out of control and there is no law for the crooked.


11 posted on 02/01/2021 12:10:52 PM PST by NWFree
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To: SeekAndFind

Section 3.

“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”

The Democrats clearly have no case against Trump under that.


12 posted on 02/01/2021 12:10:55 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

13 posted on 02/01/2021 12:11:04 PM PST by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No wonder more NG troops arriving every day.

Kangaroo courts need lots of protection. (See Venezuela).

5.56mm


14 posted on 02/01/2021 12:11:45 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho ain't my president.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If my party had a razor thin hold on leadership in the Senate and a VP who vocally supported actual rioters who actually succeeded in taking over and holding government property for days to weeks during the past summer, I’d be awfully careful about saying tweets can be evidence of supporting an insurrection.


15 posted on 02/01/2021 12:23:38 PM PST by jz638
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To: heshtesh

I would like to see an honest election.


16 posted on 02/01/2021 12:23:40 PM PST by Old Yeller (Nana Pelosi is a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples. Thus the slurred speaking.)
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To: Brian Griffin

If he won in 2024, he’d take office at age 78 (Biden’s age) and leave office at age 82

Why not, if they are mentally and physically fit?


17 posted on 02/01/2021 12:24:34 PM PST by Paperpusher
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To: Paperpusher

I think it’s nuts that nobody in DC retires.
Fauci is 80.
Pelosi is 80.
McConnell is 78.
Biden is 78.


18 posted on 02/01/2021 12:27:34 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: SeekAndFind
"Some have even added a call to put the entire Republican Party on a Domestic Terror list."

Quite a few subscribers here will be happy with them.

19 posted on 02/01/2021 12:32:30 PM PST by familyop
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To: SeekAndFind
The 14th amendment should be repealed. Along with the 17th and 19th. These are among the most destructive amendments ever passed. I'm not too happy with the way the 10th has been interpreted either.

20 posted on 02/01/2021 12:33:15 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O my great Redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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