WHO WILL TELL THE GREENS THERE IS NO BATTERY FAIRY?

Powerline ^ | 01/31/2021 | Steven Hayward

[ocrp1982]

“Small auto and truck engines have become so efficient, they beat electric vehicles for energy use, and should remain gasoline and diesel.”
Both GM and Ford have committed to producing nothing but 100% electric vehicles by 2035. When the CEO of GM was questioned concerning the lack of demand for the electric vehicles they currently make her response was telling.
She said if we all convert the consumer will have no choice. This is typical Leftist thinking. Take away choice and force people to buy something they would not buy given a choice.

[Cold Heart]

Thanks for the edison battery tip. I looked it up and they are still being made by Iron Edison. Cheapest 12 volt is $1000+

[beethovenfan]

Everybody knows that. It comes out of the wall. (sarc)

[Bonemaker]

"They believe the propaganda that electric vehicles are the way to go."

[Chad C. Mulligan]

They know all that. Even Musk has said there’s not enough power generation. The object is to throttle inexpensive travel; to keep people corralled; to force the use of public trans; etc.

And eventually to reduce the world's population by 90%, which is where the whole Glowbull Worming meme originated. See: Club of Rome.

If they think about that at all, they assumed that you will be in the die-off, and they will remain, to live an idyllic life in a new Garden of Eden.

[alloysteel]

The easy way to get electricity, is to use an extension cord, and plug the male plug into the female receptacle at the other end of the cord, and - voila! - instant and unending electricity.

Trouble is, you cannot tap into that circuit without dripping electricity all over the floor.

[silverleaf]

What, you mean there’s more to electric cars than plug-in?

[Pez149]

C&P KSL.com

;What Are the Pros and Cons of Solar Flight?

Solar-powered flight is a fascinating possibility. But is it a commercially viable flying option? Let’s consider the pros and cons.

Pros of solar-powered flight:

Perpetual flight: Solar panels produce their own energy on site, so the plane could, in theory, fly forever in the right weather conditions. Solar Impulse’s longest flight so far was from Japan to Hawaii — a world record at 117 hours and 52 minutes.No harmful pollution: Because solar-powered planes don’t need fuel, they emit no harmful exhaust.Cost of solar panels would decrease: If solar planes go into mass production, solar panels of all types — even for residential use — would decrease in cost.Cons of solar-powered flight:- Slow speeds: With a cruising speed of 43 miles per hour, Si2 travels at about the same speed as a car. While it takes a regular jet roughly five hours to travel from Hawaii to California, Si2 took over 62 hours to complete the journey.Perfect weather required: Solar-powered planes need practically perfect weather conditions to fly: it needs fair, sunny conditions to power its solar cells. Plus, because of the plane’s light weight, it is sensitive to high winds, and rain can also cause the plane to be grounded. Currently, meteorologists must work closely with the Solar Impulse team to create flight plans.Awkward size: The aircraft is large but light. It has a wingspan comparable to a Boeing 747 — 236 feet — but the weight of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Lighter planes consume less energy to fly, but transporting people requires additional weight.Pilot life is difficult: The hours and days spent on a solar-powered plane are rough. The cockpit is tiny, so the pilots cannot stand up, walk, or shower. There is a small hole in their seats for a toilet. Because weight has to be kept to a minimum, they cannot bring any unnecessary items, like razors. Their diets are strictly organized, and the food they consume on the plane is mostly mashed, nutrient-dense food. Pilots train to sleep in short, 20-minute intervals by reclining their chair — only when the weather is clear, of course.

[Jonty30]

I understand that there are new materials out there, but it’s a question of economics. Sure, if you spend enough you can have anything you want, but that doesn’t mean it’s economical to produce. Economics is my particular interest.

I think there are places, where electricity is more useful than hydrocarbons. Motorcycles and scooters would probably be better off being electrified than using gas, because the distance you can travel on them are not that different between a electricity and hydrocarbons. I plan to get an electric bicycle because I’m convinced that it’s better than a manual bicycles, especially for up hills.

I think electricity does have a place in vehicles as part of a hybrid. The more we develop that, the more economical electrical vehicles can become, but there is nothing that beats hydrocarbons, except nuclear, for work units/energy. I don’t see that changing in the near future.

The only gamechanger that I see that could change that is if we can somehow create a supercapacitor that also acts as a battery, five minute charges and 600km distances. That would change things, but it is my understanding that we haven’t been able to develop something like that yet. I haven’t seen anything in regards to that.

[noiseman]

He said we are making tremendous progress in batteries, and we will have all the cheap and energy dense batteries we need very shortly... Just around the corner, so to speak.

I think it’s in line right behind achieving break even in fusion power generation. Fusion has been “right around the corner” for over 40 years now.

[Carl Vehse]

Don’t waste your breath! The Greens you try to talk to are either flatlined, tree-hugging Luddites or lying, hypocritical leftists.

[nevergore]

The new battery technology is promising new charges for a car in 15 minutes plus a new puppy and world peace......

LOL, we’ll see.....

There will always be a place for hydrocarbon technology.....

However, It will slowly be eclipsed by electrical.....

[Truthoverpower]

I’m sorry but there is a battery fairy it’s called Lithium ion

Do you ever notice for a minute just incredible how the battery is in your iPhone or your android or your laptopOr your watch or your radio or your device

Batteries are tiny; not too heavy and can do 10 to 30,000 cycles

Lithium-ion batteries, unlike other former favorites such as alkaline or nickel cadmium. Lin batteries Don’t have any memory.

You can abuse them enough that their lifetime will decrease

But a much more sexy energy carrier is hydrogen , of course

We are just talking about energy carriers here ; not sources of energy

It’s funny the simple fact is with just the sun and water you can run the entire energy economy of the planet and I can do it millions of times over what we need to run every building car airplane and everything else

[cyclotic]

I live in Maryland. The other day I saw a Tesla with Oregon plates. I can’t imagine how long that trip took.

[heavy metal]

old rusty chevrolets...

[Alberta's Child]

Probably stayed at hotels with charging stations. I’ve seen more and more hotel chains doing that.

[Truthoverpower]

Oh and by the way here’s some battery knowledge for you

Did you know that you can charge and recharge alkaline batteries thousands of times very easily?

I can look in trash bins of alkaline batteries 9 V 1.5 or whatever and throw them in the charger and get them right back to almost full charge unless they’ve really been abused

Now what’s the trick? You have to have a voltmeter

They charge very quickly, about 10 to 15 minutes to go from 1.3 to 1.4 to 1.6 on a AA or AAA

What I generally do is just buy alkaline batteries and then just be really nice to them to never let them get below 1.5

keep them cycling between 1.6 and 1.45 and they last about 3 to 4 years of every day use. ( radio )

They’re very cheap they’re very safe and they have no hazardous materials

I bought some funny green Eco batteries in Barbados one time and they lasted from 2015 to just now about six years. ( 9 V )

Cheers. ! Truth over power

[cyclotic]

That’s still a new hotel ever 350 miles. If I push it I can get 750 miles a day. I’ve done 1000

[Jonty30]

I agree that, if we were honest about things and not just ideological about things, that there would be a narrowing of hydrocarbon usage to where it is just limited to vehicles, because nothing will beat hydrocarbons when it comes to driving vehicles.

I find that renewable energies are best when actually attached to your home, but not really economical when you need to set aside the same size land as your city in order to install as many acres of solar panels as your city takes up in order to make it work, not to mention the millions of fried birds that would happen over the course of a year.

[Truthoverpower]

I reuse 9 V batteries three of them in use to make 27v and with making silver every morning. You need 21v DC min for silver electrolysis Distilled h20 only